Looking for new Guitar/Amp plgin

pike · Post by **pike** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 3:47 pm

Hi everyone,

I recently upgraded to Pro Tools 12 and was told that Eleven was no longer available as a guitar amp plug in. Not sure if this is true, but I'm looking at other plugins such as NI Guitar Rig and IK Multimedia Amplitube. I would really appreciate your input.

Eleven was good, but I'm thinking there are better amp simulators out there.

Thanks in advance,

Kevin

WeWillWriteUaSong · Post by **WeWillWriteUaSong** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 5:57 pm

Hey Kevin,

This year I upgraded to Amplitube 4 and I absolutely love it. I use it on everything. Even on other tracks like bass and synths. That has my vote. Before that I was using TH2 and I had that sounding pretty nice too. My brother (who is the real guitarist) swears by Waves CLA Guitars....which I admit sounds sweet...i believe he got it included in a package with the CLA compressor bundle but on its own its $99. Amplitube 4 is $120 ($300 for deluxe).. TH3 (Overloud's new version) is $250.. i suggest dl'ing a demo and trying out what interests you.. hope this helps..

Marcus

andygabrys · Post by **andygabrys** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:14 am

Kevin,

eleven is still available: http://www.avid.com/en/plugins/eleven-mk-ii

Other ones that are worth a listen:

Guitar Rig
Amplitube
Overloud TH2 / TH3
Scuffham S-gear
Any of the Brainworx amp sims - many of which are also avaialbe on the UAD platform if you have an apollo
Softube
Waves GTR 3

etc.

I honestly feel that all of them have some slightly desirable characteristics, and not every one does every flavor the best.

HTH

cosmicdolphin · Post by **cosmicdolphin** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:26 am

WeWillWriteUaSong wrote:Hey Kevin,
My brother (who is the real guitarist) swears by Waves CLA Guitars....
Marcus

CLA Guitars is more of an FX chain for getting guitars to sound nice in the mix than an out and out Amp Sim...it is good though.

Lots of options in Waves GTR

mojobone · Post by **mojobone** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:12 am

I know you said 'plugin', but an outboard stompbox modeler under MIDI control can do most of the same tricks while providing zero-latency monitoring and you can still have as many instances as you have tracks, whilst taking a load off your CPU; the only caveat being that if you lose the outboard hardware, you lose automation recall. OTOH, hardware still works, long after it's obsoleted.

andygabrys · Post by **andygabrys** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:15 am

you could run out and by a Line 6 Helix, or an AxeFX2 or an Eleven Rack

mojobone · Post by **mojobone** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:44 am

Yeah, the Helix might be worth re-mortgaging the house; I've been looking into it, LOL. Hah, I'm keeding, cuz the Helix costs more than my first car. OTOH, the gear it mimics costs more than my parents' first house. WAY more, in fact. Oh, and don't forget the Kemper.

The nice thing about this kinda setup, though, is that you you have knobs, switches and one or more foot controllers that can send MIDI data to your DAW in realtime during a take, for example. And conversely, you can usually assign parameters in the model that can be controlled by the DAW.

pike · Post by **pike** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:10 pm

Guys thanks for all the inputs! So far I've downloaded NI Guitar Rig (demo version has a very low output - can't get it to work properly) and Waves CLR Guitars (so far sounds really good - thanks WeWillWriteUaSong!). I want to check out Waves GTR 3 too (thanks cosmicdolphin!).

Andy, thanks for the Eleven info (and suggestions), sounds like a no brainer for me, especially for my old project sessions. Only $49 to upgrade!

Mojobone, I haven't thought about hardware, but if its reasonable in price I'll check it out. I started out with the POD from Line 6 which was cool. Helix sounds like it would be great but is out of my price range.

I need to download all of your suggestions and see what's best for me.

Thanks again! The Taxi community is awesome!

Kevin

Russell Landwehr · Post by **Russell Landwehr** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:29 pm

I use Guitar Rig exclusively. But then I'm a Keyboardist with questionable guitar-tone tastes.

pike · Post by **pike** » Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:31 pm

Hey Russell, checked out your tracks. They sound great, especially the first track. Also, loved your rendition of Melt with You. I bought the album back in the 80's, great stuff!

I finally got Guitar Rig 5 working. Sounds great so far, have to keep playing with it.

How do you record your bass as it sounds great as well!

BTW we met briefly at the last RR.

Kevin

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