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Bad News For ASCAP Members

Post by peeyo » Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:30 am

Just saw this crappy little nugget of disappointment in a newsletter. Looks like us ASCAP members are going to have to storm the castle!!!!!! Grab yer pitchforks and get ready to "harumpf!"

ASCAP ROYALTIES - ASCAP artists, who create vocal songs, will notice a substantial reduction in performance royalties in your June/July 2012 royalty statements. ASCAP has recently changed the way they weight their background vocals; they now will be paid at the same rate as background instrumentals, resulting in reduced payments for all background vocal uses. We are unhappy about their decision as well as it affects our publishing royalties just as it does yours, but there is nothing we can do but double up on our efforts to get your more placements. If you are an ASCAP member, we urge you to contact your ASCAP representative regarding any questions or concerns you might have.

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Post by ShadowaterMusic » Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:36 am

Bad news...unless you're an instrumental composer. Then things just got more equitable. ;)
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Post by kclements » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:13 am

ShadowaterMusic wrote:Bad news...unless you're an instrumental composer. Then things just got more equitable. ;)

True - but going the wrong way :o

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Re: Bad News For ASCAP Members

Post by ragani » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:18 am

Well that's a crappy little piece of news for us vocalists. Very crappy indeed.

Guess everyone will be paying bigger licensing fees to me from now on... Heh heh.
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Re: Bad News For ASCAP Members

Post by marcblack30 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:27 am

Ack.. I saw this too. Lets fix it... how do we fix it??? I have my pitchfork ready to go.

It does just mention BV's, is that just ooh and ahh's, it doesn't affect a full on lead vocal? Still sucks, and I still have my pitchfork ready!
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Post by peeyo » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:03 am

Yeah, maybe evens the playing field, but Like Kayle said, it's not a good direction for any of us. What if they eventually lower the rate for BG instrumentals.
Mark I think it means a song with vocals playing in the background during a scene. Wish it was the other way.......

BOO!!!!!!!!!!!

Guess everyone will be paying bigger licensing fees to me from now on... Heh heh.

Yeah, I'll hold my breathe Raags ;)

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Post by mazz » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:46 am

I wish they would have "met in the middle" with this instead of just cutting the vocal rate. As an instrumental composer I would have preferred a bit of a bump and a less drastic cut to the song rate.
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Post by DesireInspires » Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:35 am

Honestly, it really doesn't make a difference for many musicians.

Most artists with ASCAP were not earning enough to live off of to begin with. Is it fair that the vocal rate was cut? Nope. Is there anything that can be done about it? Nope.

I came to the conclusion a while ago that the investment in music for me is something to do as a hobby and not a career. I think that other musicians need to face the fact that unless some law is passed, music is not a sustainable career. It takes too much work to make too little money.

Musicians like myself will continue to make music because it is fun to create stuff. The royalties and licensing fees earned will really be a bonus. It makes sense to keep costs down and use any money earned from my music to buy new hardware, software, and instruments. The days of taking out a loan to buy musical equipment are done.

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Re: Bad News For ASCAP Members

Post by davewalton » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:54 am

DesireInspires wrote:I think that other musicians need to face the fact that unless some law is passed, music is not a sustainable career.
Thanks, but most of us don't really NEED to be saved from disaster. :lol: For those of us that do make a sustainable career though music, your "fact" that we can't do this seems a little... well, non-factual. It's like showing up at NASA this week and saying "Face the facts... you guys will never make it into outer space". Uh... I think they already did. ;)

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Re: Bad News For ASCAP Members

Post by ShadowaterMusic » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:23 am

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