Anyone know how to do string gliss with East/West
Moderators: admin, mdc, TAXIstaff
-
- Serious Musician
- Posts: 3009
- Joined: Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:38 pm
- Gender: Male
- Location: New Orleans, LA
- Contact:
Anyone know how to do string gliss with East/West
I'm writing an orchestra piece for a competition and need to do a mock up to go along with the final score. My score has some wide string gliss's that I need to find a way to emulate. Anyone know how to do this effectively with the East/West orcehstra? I'm using the platinum version.
I clipped out a couple of pages from the score so you can see what I'm trying to do. It's the vl 1 and vl 2 parts that I need to "perform".
http://bryanfusilier.com/wp-content/upl ... xcerpt.pdf
I could sure use some tips!!
Thanks
B
I clipped out a couple of pages from the score so you can see what I'm trying to do. It's the vl 1 and vl 2 parts that I need to "perform".
http://bryanfusilier.com/wp-content/upl ... xcerpt.pdf
I could sure use some tips!!
Thanks
B
- mazz
- Total Pro
- Posts: 8411
- Joined: Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:51 am
- Gender: Male
- Location: San Francisco
- Contact:
Re: Anyone know how to do string gliss with East/West
According to the Soundsonline website, the 11 violins have the following Effects Articulations:
# Effects 5th Slide DN Hrd
# 5th Slide UP Hrd
# Glide Long
# Glide Short
# Psycho Rip
# Run Down Psycho
# Run Up Psycho 2
# Run Up Psycho Round-Robin
# Scratching FX †
# SFX Clusters
# Slow Trill FX
# Sul Ponticello
# Tremolo
# Trill Half-Tone †
# Trill Whole-Tone †
# Effects 5th Slide DN Hrd
# 5th Slide UP Hrd
# Glide Long
# Glide Short
# Psycho Rip
# Run Down Psycho
# Run Up Psycho 2
# Run Up Psycho Round-Robin
# Scratching FX †
# SFX Clusters
# Slow Trill FX
# Sul Ponticello
# Tremolo
# Trill Half-Tone †
# Trill Whole-Tone †
Evocative Music For Media
imagine if John Williams and Trent Reznor met at Bernard Hermann's for lunch and Brian Eno was the head chef!
http://www.johnmazzei.com
http://www.taxi.com/johnmazzei
it's not the gear, it's the ear!
imagine if John Williams and Trent Reznor met at Bernard Hermann's for lunch and Brian Eno was the head chef!
http://www.johnmazzei.com
http://www.taxi.com/johnmazzei
it's not the gear, it's the ear!
-
- Serious Musician
- Posts: 3009
- Joined: Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:38 pm
- Gender: Male
- Location: New Orleans, LA
- Contact:
Re: Anyone know how to do string gliss with East/West
wow. How did I miss glide long and short? I'll start there. Thanks mazz!
-
- Serious Musician
- Posts: 3009
- Joined: Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:38 pm
- Gender: Male
- Location: New Orleans, LA
- Contact:
Re: Anyone know how to do string gliss with East/West
Well I tried the long glide and it isn't long enough and I can't seem to control it.
I just loaded up the Garritan solo violin and it has more gliss control, but I'm still not getting these LONG and SLOW slides.
I might have to open Ableton to fake this section unless anyone else has any ideas.
B

I just loaded up the Garritan solo violin and it has more gliss control, but I'm still not getting these LONG and SLOW slides.
I might have to open Ableton to fake this section unless anyone else has any ideas.
B
- t4mh
- Serious Musician
- Posts: 1446
- Joined: Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:05 pm
- Gender: Male
- Location: Indiana
- Contact:
Re: Anyone know how to do string gliss with East/West
Bryan
Gliss or glide HAS to be a function of Portamento. CC 5 ( portamento time ) is used in some of the performance scripts if you are using a voice that has a script. Make sure you have the Portamento button turned on in the UI. Wish I could help more but I haven't even got my stuff out of the box yet. Just reading the manual...
Good Luck!
Keith
Just a little bit more on this while I'm thinking about it. Seems to me you should be able to go to your DAW and look at "the track" either in Piano Roll or Event List. Find where this passage begins and insert a CC 5 event. In Sonar-Piano Roll this would be a vertical line (0-127). Make it taller you get a longer portamento. I don't know how to do this in LOGIC which I'll be changing to. At the end of the passage, you'll want to "reset" the portamento to default value so the rest of that track isn't screwed up. I don't know what the default value is for these scripts. Zero? The best would be to open the performance script and see what the argument value actually is. I have absolutely no idea how to do this on a Mac...
Keith
Gliss or glide HAS to be a function of Portamento. CC 5 ( portamento time ) is used in some of the performance scripts if you are using a voice that has a script. Make sure you have the Portamento button turned on in the UI. Wish I could help more but I haven't even got my stuff out of the box yet. Just reading the manual...
Good Luck!
Keith
Just a little bit more on this while I'm thinking about it. Seems to me you should be able to go to your DAW and look at "the track" either in Piano Roll or Event List. Find where this passage begins and insert a CC 5 event. In Sonar-Piano Roll this would be a vertical line (0-127). Make it taller you get a longer portamento. I don't know how to do this in LOGIC which I'll be changing to. At the end of the passage, you'll want to "reset" the portamento to default value so the rest of that track isn't screwed up. I don't know what the default value is for these scripts. Zero? The best would be to open the performance script and see what the argument value actually is. I have absolutely no idea how to do this on a Mac...
Keith
I hear the voice of God in a bending guitar string!
Life is too important to be taken seriously
No electrons were harmed in the construction of this message.
http://www.t4mh.com
Life is too important to be taken seriously
No electrons were harmed in the construction of this message.
http://www.t4mh.com
- mazz
- Total Pro
- Posts: 8411
- Joined: Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:51 am
- Gender: Male
- Location: San Francisco
- Contact:
Re: Anyone know how to do string gliss with East/West
I would try playing several overlapping tracks with the gliss articulation each one higher than the last and staggered in time until you get to the pitch you want and then crossfade them. Track them as audio and then you'll have flexibility
Evocative Music For Media
imagine if John Williams and Trent Reznor met at Bernard Hermann's for lunch and Brian Eno was the head chef!
http://www.johnmazzei.com
http://www.taxi.com/johnmazzei
it's not the gear, it's the ear!
imagine if John Williams and Trent Reznor met at Bernard Hermann's for lunch and Brian Eno was the head chef!
http://www.johnmazzei.com
http://www.taxi.com/johnmazzei
it's not the gear, it's the ear!
-
- Serious Musician
- Posts: 3009
- Joined: Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:38 pm
- Gender: Male
- Location: New Orleans, LA
- Contact:
- fullbirdmusic
- Committed Musician
- Posts: 827
- Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:02 am
- Gender: Male
- Location: Stuttgart, Germany
- Contact:
Re: Anyone know how to do string gliss with East/West
Holy crap - excellent info!t4mh wrote:Bryan
Gliss or glide HAS to be a function of Portamento. CC 5 ( portamento time ) is used in some of the performance scripts if you are using a voice that has a script. Make sure you have the Portamento button turned on in the UI. Wish I could help more but I haven't even got my stuff out of the box yet. Just reading the manual...
Good Luck!
Keith
Just a little bit more on this while I'm thinking about it. Seems to me you should be able to go to your DAW and look at "the track" either in Piano Roll or Event List. Find where this passage begins and insert a CC 5 event. In Sonar-Piano Roll this would be a vertical line (0-127). Make it taller you get a longer portamento. I don't know how to do this in LOGIC which I'll be changing to. At the end of the passage, you'll want to "reset" the portamento to default value so the rest of that track isn't screwed up. I don't know what the default value is for these scripts. Zero? The best would be to open the performance script and see what the argument value actually is. I have absolutely no idea how to do this on a Mac...
Keith
Bryan, Symphobia has a TON of those gliss effects. Not sure if you have it, but I imagine you would have used it already if you did.
Sorry I can't help!!
Wes Costello
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Full Bird Music - because you care about your productions. http://www.fullbirdmusic.com
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Full Bird Music - because you care about your productions. http://www.fullbirdmusic.com
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests