Anyone know how to do string gliss with East/West

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Anyone know how to do string gliss with East/West

Post by fusilierb » Tue May 04, 2010 2:01 pm

I'm writing an orchestra piece for a competition and need to do a mock up to go along with the final score. My score has some wide string gliss's that I need to find a way to emulate. Anyone know how to do this effectively with the East/West orcehstra? I'm using the platinum version.

I clipped out a couple of pages from the score so you can see what I'm trying to do. It's the vl 1 and vl 2 parts that I need to "perform".

http://bryanfusilier.com/wp-content/upl ... xcerpt.pdf

I could sure use some tips!!

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Re: Anyone know how to do string gliss with East/West

Post by mazz » Tue May 04, 2010 2:16 pm

According to the Soundsonline website, the 11 violins have the following Effects Articulations:

# Effects 5th Slide DN Hrd
# 5th Slide UP Hrd
# Glide Long
# Glide Short
# Psycho Rip
# Run Down Psycho
# Run Up Psycho 2
# Run Up Psycho Round-Robin
# Scratching FX †
# SFX Clusters
# Slow Trill FX
# Sul Ponticello
# Tremolo
# Trill Half-Tone †
# Trill Whole-Tone †
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Re: Anyone know how to do string gliss with East/West

Post by fusilierb » Tue May 04, 2010 2:23 pm

wow. How did I miss glide long and short? I'll start there. Thanks mazz!

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Re: Anyone know how to do string gliss with East/West

Post by fusilierb » Tue May 04, 2010 3:54 pm

Well I tried the long glide and it isn't long enough and I can't seem to control it. :x

I just loaded up the Garritan solo violin and it has more gliss control, but I'm still not getting these LONG and SLOW slides.

I might have to open Ableton to fake this section unless anyone else has any ideas.

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Re: Anyone know how to do string gliss with East/West

Post by t4mh » Tue May 04, 2010 4:22 pm

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Gliss or glide HAS to be a function of Portamento. CC 5 ( portamento time ) is used in some of the performance scripts if you are using a voice that has a script. Make sure you have the Portamento button turned on in the UI. Wish I could help more but I haven't even got my stuff out of the box yet. Just reading the manual...

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Just a little bit more on this while I'm thinking about it. Seems to me you should be able to go to your DAW and look at "the track" either in Piano Roll or Event List. Find where this passage begins and insert a CC 5 event. In Sonar-Piano Roll this would be a vertical line (0-127). Make it taller you get a longer portamento. I don't know how to do this in LOGIC which I'll be changing to. At the end of the passage, you'll want to "reset" the portamento to default value so the rest of that track isn't screwed up. I don't know what the default value is for these scripts. Zero? The best would be to open the performance script and see what the argument value actually is. I have absolutely no idea how to do this on a Mac...

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Re: Anyone know how to do string gliss with East/West

Post by mazz » Tue May 04, 2010 7:02 pm

I would try playing several overlapping tracks with the gliss articulation each one higher than the last and staggered in time until you get to the pitch you want and then crossfade them. Track them as audio and then you'll have flexibility
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Re: Anyone know how to do string gliss with East/West

Post by fullbirdmusic » Wed May 05, 2010 12:08 am

t4mh wrote:Bryan

Gliss or glide HAS to be a function of Portamento. CC 5 ( portamento time ) is used in some of the performance scripts if you are using a voice that has a script. Make sure you have the Portamento button turned on in the UI. Wish I could help more but I haven't even got my stuff out of the box yet. Just reading the manual...

Good Luck!
Keith

Just a little bit more on this while I'm thinking about it. Seems to me you should be able to go to your DAW and look at "the track" either in Piano Roll or Event List. Find where this passage begins and insert a CC 5 event. In Sonar-Piano Roll this would be a vertical line (0-127). Make it taller you get a longer portamento. I don't know how to do this in LOGIC which I'll be changing to. At the end of the passage, you'll want to "reset" the portamento to default value so the rest of that track isn't screwed up. I don't know what the default value is for these scripts. Zero? The best would be to open the performance script and see what the argument value actually is. I have absolutely no idea how to do this on a Mac...

Keith
Holy crap - excellent info!

Bryan, Symphobia has a TON of those gliss effects. Not sure if you have it, but I imagine you would have used it already if you did.
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