automating Kontakt in Logic Pro

We're putting YOU in the drivers seat!

Moderators: admin, mdc, TAXIstaff

Post Reply
Onaginoffegin
Committed Musician
Committed Musician
Posts: 760
Joined: Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:55 pm
Gender: Male
Contact:

automating Kontakt in Logic Pro

Post by Onaginoffegin » Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:38 pm

As the title suggests, this post is for people who don't know how to automate the controls and faders in Kontakt. It is for people new to Kontakt, or people like me who used Kontakt for a long time before learning you could automate the various instrument knobs and faders.

There's more than one way to set up a Kontakt multi in Logic. One involves the first four steps listed below, adding one new software instrument track to Logic, then adding 15 aux tracks. The advantage of this is all 16 tracks can be controlled independently in terms of volume, panning, etc.
The disadvantage, at least for me, is (at least in Logic 9) you can't convert an aux track into an audio track. Feel free to correct me on this if I'm wrong.
More than occasionally, I like to convert a midi track to audio for...reasons.

The method I use to create a multi is: open a new Logic project, click on multi-timbral ( which defaults to 16 midi tracks), then select Kontakt multi-timbral x 16 tracks. You don't have to use the 16-track option, but I use it because I never know, with any given piece, how many tracks I will need.
Now you have up to 16 instruments you can load into Kontakt, each on its own midi channel. But there's a huge downside: any changes you make to one track in volume, panning, etc. affects all other 15 tracks equally.
Want to automate the volume fader so one sound fades in while another sound fades out? Forget about it.

For quite some time, my workaround was to convert midi tracks into audio so I could use FX, volume, panning, etc. on that track alone. In retrospect, that is probably easier and quicker than automating Kontakt.
But here are the steps, and for the purpose of this post, I will focus on automating the volume faders in Kontakt.
(The friggin' spell-check keeps changing the word Kontakt into Contact, so from here on I will refer to it as "K.")

1) Load some instruments into K
2) Click on "Output" at the top of K
3) Select "Presets/Batch configuration"
4) Select "Batch Functions"
5) Select "Clear output section and create one individual channel for each loaded instrument." (This will give each loaded instrument its own stereo output channel in K.)
6) Click on "Auto" in the upper left side of K. Depending on which software instruments you've loaded into K, you'll see a screen with a number of automation options and a number to the left of each option. If "volume" is among them, you can click on the corresponding number in K, and drag it to the volume fader of the instrument in K that you want to automate the volume.
7) If you don't feel liking scrolling through hundreds of numbers looking for volume automation — or if it isn't there — in Logic, hit the "A" key, or select "View / track automation"
8) In Logic, click on the "volume" button for the track you want to automate the volume fader, and select 1 Kontakt 5 ( at least that's the option for me)
9) You should see a bunch of numbers with nothing to the right of them. These represent potential automations that have not been assigned in K. (Sometimes you have to scroll down to find them)
10) Select a number
11) Let's say the number you selected was 277 — find 277 in K and drag it to the volume knob of your selected instrument in K.

Your Arrange window in Logic will now show a line across the track that represents volume automation. By clicking on this line and moving it up and down, you can draw fade-ins and fade-outs independent of all your other midi tracks in the multi. Pretty much the same as drawing in fades in the Piano Roll window.
This automation will not affect the volume fader in Logic, but will instead control the volume fader of the designated instrument in K.
The Logic fader will now control just the tracks you haven't automated.

Or yeah, just go back to converting a midi track to an audio track. :)

Henry

User avatar
Paulie
Serious Musician
Serious Musician
Posts: 2672
Joined: Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:23 pm
Gender: Male
Location: San Antonio, TX
Contact:

Re: automating Kontakt in Logic Pro

Post by Paulie » Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:41 pm

There's an easier way. :)

You have to add a new track for the instrument you want to control. I usually keep most of my Kontakt tracks mono, but you can do this to stereo pairs as well.
  • Assume you have a 4-part multi: Bass on 1, Strings on 2, 2nd Strings on 3, Brass on 4.
  • If you want to automate anything on the strings track, from your Mixer view, right-click on the name of the track and select "Create Track" from the pop up menu. This will create a new track.
  • Now, go back to your main window and find the new track. It will have the same name as your original track, in this case "Strings." I rename it "Strings - volume" and then drag it below the original strings track.
  • Now, any automation you apply to this track only affects this track.
I do the same thing for the Master track if I want to draw fades at the end of cues.

For reasons unknown to me still at this time, it doesn't work for Track 1. I might have something improperly setup in my software though. I never use channel 1 for instruments, unless it is the only instrument in use at the time.

Let me know if you have any questions.
Paul "yo paulie!" Croteau
"Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." Beethoven
http://www.yopauliemusic.com | https://www.taxi.com/members/paulcroteau | https://youtube.com/@yopauliemusic

User avatar
andygabrys
Total Pro
Total Pro
Posts: 5567
Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:09 pm
Gender: Male
Location: Summerland, BC by way of Santa Fe, Chilliwack, Boston, NYC
Contact:

Re: automating Kontakt in Logic Pro

Post by andygabrys » Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:35 pm

there are a bunch of ways to accomplish all of this:

There is track automation, and region automation too in Logic.

For VI's (and mostly because I am too lazy to spend the time rebuilding my template when I have other stuff to do) i have used a software instrument track and then 15 consecutive midi channels of the same corresponding to the 16 channels in Kontakt - so not the multi-out scenario you are describing Henry.

As you pointed out that means you can't do track automation for volume on discrete parts of that 16 track assembly, but you can do region automation.

Since most of the time I am using Contact libraries like LASS or Cinejbrass that have a bow pressure / wind pressure control via CC1, a generic volume control via CC11 (expression) and the track automation control via CC7, I usually just leave CC7 alone, use CC1 to control brightness and general timbre and make additional adjustments using CC11.

just a different way to do it.

Onaginoffegin
Committed Musician
Committed Musician
Posts: 760
Joined: Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:55 pm
Gender: Male
Contact:

Re: automating Kontakt in Logic Pro

Post by Onaginoffegin » Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:43 pm

Great stuff, Paul and Andy.
Thanks so much for the additional input.


Henry

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 29 guests