Avoiding REPETITIVENESS

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Re: Avoiding REPETITIVENESS

Post by cosmicdolphin » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:39 am

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I have to thank you for this, Mark. Truly an issue for me and obviously many others.
No worries, I think I have a very low boredom threshold which helps !

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Re: Avoiding REPETITIVENESS

Post by DexWilliams » Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:10 am

I was starting to wonder about structure for instrumental submissions and this has been really helpful... thanks for sharing.

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Re: Avoiding REPETITIVENESS

Post by Kolstad » Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:42 pm

It’s composer tricks like these that makes your music unique. These tips could have been a chapter in Dean Krippaehne’s book «Demystifying the Genre». Maybe you should do one like Dean and Steve Barden also did? 101 ways to keep your arrangement interesting, engaging and useful.. Thanks for sharing, Mark.
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Re: Avoiding REPETITIVENESS

Post by OwenGrech » Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:00 am

Very helpful advice thanks!

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Re: Avoiding REPETITIVENESS

Post by cosmicdolphin » Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:13 am

Kolstad wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:42 pm
It’s composer tricks like these that makes your music unique. These tips could have been a chapter in Dean Krippaehne’s book «Demystifying the Genre». Maybe you should do one like Dean and Steve Barden also did? 101 ways to keep your arrangement interesting, engaging and useful.. Thanks for sharing, Mark.
Haha..yeah probably wouldn't be long enough for a book. Maybe a little PDF

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Re: Avoiding REPETITIVENESS

Post by Kolstad » Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:30 am

CTWF wrote:
Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:37 pm
cosmicdolphin wrote:
Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:13 am
Kolstad wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:42 pm
It’s composer tricks like these that makes your music unique. These tips could have been a chapter in Dean Krippaehne’s book «Demystifying the Genre». Maybe you should do one like Dean and Steve Barden also did? 101 ways to keep your arrangement interesting, engaging and useful.. Thanks for sharing, Mark.
Haha..yeah probably wouldn't be long enough for a book. Maybe a little PDF
Since I am the original publisher, I'll get %.
Actually, that would be Taxi, as you posted in their forum :D
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Re: Avoiding REPETITIVENESS

Post by cosmicdolphin » Sat May 01, 2021 2:22 am

Kolstad wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:42 pm
It’s composer tricks like these that makes your music unique. These tips could have been a chapter in Dean Krippaehne’s book «Demystifying the Genre». Maybe you should do one like Dean and Steve Barden also did? 101 ways to keep your arrangement interesting, engaging and useful.. Thanks for sharing, Mark.
Here you go...I made it into a cut out and keep one sheet PDF you can stick on the wall - Had to host it on a free site because you can't attach them here

https://pdfhost.io/v/LBOwk0xbh_Cosmics_ ... eetpdf.pdf

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Re: Avoiding REPETITIVENESS

Post by OwenGrech » Sat May 01, 2021 3:39 am

cosmicdolphin wrote:
Sat May 01, 2021 2:22 am
Kolstad wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:42 pm
It’s composer tricks like these that makes your music unique. These tips could have been a chapter in Dean Krippaehne’s book «Demystifying the Genre». Maybe you should do one like Dean and Steve Barden also did? 101 ways to keep your arrangement interesting, engaging and useful.. Thanks for sharing, Mark.
Here you go...I made it into a cut out and keep one sheet PDF you can stick on the wall - Had to host it on a free site because you can't attach them here

https://pdfhost.io/v/LBOwk0xbh_Cosmics_ ... eetpdf.pdf
thanks for this Cosmicdolphin!

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Re: Avoiding REPETITIVENESS

Post by Kolstad » Sat May 01, 2021 4:43 am

cosmicdolphin wrote:
Sat May 01, 2021 2:22 am
Kolstad wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:42 pm
It’s composer tricks like these that makes your music unique. These tips could have been a chapter in Dean Krippaehne’s book «Demystifying the Genre». Maybe you should do one like Dean and Steve Barden also did? 101 ways to keep your arrangement interesting, engaging and useful.. Thanks for sharing, Mark.
Here you go...I made it into a cut out and keep one sheet PDF you can stick on the wall - Had to host it on a free site because you can't attach them here

https://pdfhost.io/v/LBOwk0xbh_Cosmics_ ... eetpdf.pdf
Well done!
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Re: Avoiding REPETITIVENESS

Post by superblonde » Sun May 02, 2021 1:42 pm

CTWF wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:46 am
our instrumental is NOT supposed to be repetitive, since, apparently, music supervisors can always repeat/create loops at their own will with the right software.


1. 4 Bar rule. Never repeat the same thing for more than 4 bars. Like ever.
Sounds to me like the underlying problem is symmetric form. A simplistic & symmetric form ((4+4) + (4+4)) is predictable therefore repetitive sounding. It is boring with vocals even if lyrics & vocals are phenomenal (i.e. every Audioslave album) so without the vocals it is even more boring & repetitive. A solution is asymmetry.
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