Creep (draft)

We're putting YOU in the drivers seat!

Moderators: admin, mdc, TAXIstaff

User avatar
Zaychi
Committed Musician
Committed Musician
Posts: 508
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:09 am
Gender: Male
Location: Netherlands
Contact:

Creep (draft)

Post by Zaychi » Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:30 pm

Still some work to do on this one... but I would like you guys' opinion already. How is this for a trailer-style cover of Radiohead's Creep?

https://soundcloud.com/zaychi/creep-draft/s-q5k0tkAZ7JP


EPIC, TRAILER-Style COVERS of Well-Known SONGS with Male or Female Vocals are needed by a hard-working Music Library that’s always landing placements in TV Shows, Film projects, and Movie Trailers!

They’re looking for renditions of well-known songs that could fit in the general stylistic wheelhouse of the references we got directly from them:

"Something In The Way" (Nirvana) Cover by Samuel Kim

"Smells Like Teen Spirit" (Nirvana) Cover by Think Up Anger feat. Malia J.

"The Final Countdown" (Europe) Cover by Damned Anthem

Please submit reimagined Covers of well-known Songs that fire on all cylinders from start to finish. Your submissions should evoke a similar epic vibe in the general ballpark of the references. We think adding some orchestral, rock, and electronic elements could amp up the larger-than-life sound of your Covers. Any and all software instruments or samples you use should sound current, fresh, and not dated, obviously quantized, or MIDI-Driven. Be sure to stay as close to the original lyrics and melodies as possible so the roots of the Songs are recognizable. Compelling vocal performances with strong, expressive deliveries are absolutely key for this request!

TAXI Tip: We think that some cool sound-design elements like crashes, bangs, risers, etc. might add to the "epic" factor of your submissions! You can also consider doing things like taking a song that was uptempo in its original form and slowing it down... or the opposite! Get creative and change it up!

Broadcast quality is needed.

This Library offers a NON-EXCLUSIVE, 50/50 Deal. You’ll get 50% of any sync fees and 100% of the Writer’s share. The Publisher will get 50% of sync fees and 100% of the Publisher’s Share. You’ll keep 100% of the original copyright and master recording. You must own or control the Master and Copyright to submit to this pitch. Please submit as many Songs as you’d like, online or per CD. Someone from the Publishing Company may screen some or all of the submissions. Submissions must be received no later than 11:59 PM (PDT) on Thursday, October 1st, 2020. TAXI # S201001CV

User avatar
crashgates
Impressive
Impressive
Posts: 290
Joined: Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:35 am
Location: Valles Marineris
Contact:

Re: Creep (draft)

Post by crashgates » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:03 pm

.
Last edited by crashgates on Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:14 am, edited 2 times in total.

User avatar
JohnDroese
Getting Busy
Getting Busy
Posts: 93
Joined: Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:07 pm
Gender: Male
Contact:

Re: Creep (draft)

Post by JohnDroese » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:13 pm

Hi Zaychi..... I love it! my favorite of your songs yet..... The Cellos sound off time on the chorus now I know you are trying to emulate the electric guitars from the original.... doesn't work for me I would rather you bring those distorted guitars in or just go with a different rhythm on the cellos or really tighten up what you have..... I like the vocals I can imagine them through a rotary speaker (Leslie) effect would be cool and lastly I miss the falsetto.... you can pull it off oh and I think the vocals need to sit back in the mix a little more....such a cool arrangement

Really like it
Best of luck
John

User avatar
Zaychi
Committed Musician
Committed Musician
Posts: 508
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:09 am
Gender: Male
Location: Netherlands
Contact:

Re: Creep (draft)

Post by Zaychi » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:23 am

Thanks guys... I'll look into replacing or altering those cello's in the chorus, wasn't too happy with them myself. As for the falsetto, well... when I tried, the pitch was all over, and melodyning it (actually used it for the first time in this track, it is really cool!) made it feel really artificial and out of style with the main vocal. The "door" is REALLY REALLY too high up for me. Maybe I'll try recording it again a few notes lower and then just pitching it up.

Crash, whenever I use my "gravelly low" voice, it gets returned for sounding too "old"... I think I'll stick with this register.

Thanks again!

User avatar
CTWF
Serious Musician
Serious Musician
Posts: 2581
Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:02 am
Gender: Male
Location: Nowitzki's place of birth
Contact:

Re: Creep (draft)

Post by CTWF » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:17 am

Cool track, Zaychi!

What the others call "Cello" is that the thing coming in at 0:44 and 1:44? Yes, that does not work. I also think too much reverb on the voice, should sit further back (the vocals). I also think the mix or instro reverb needs a little more work. Maybe low-passing everything at 150 Hz or so and brighten it a little around 3 kHz? The strings at the very end need to be more humanized. And, of course, I think that horn should be louder. :)

Tom
https://soundcloud.com/ctwf --> 0|°_°|0 <--

User avatar
JohnDroese
Getting Busy
Getting Busy
Posts: 93
Joined: Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:07 pm
Gender: Male
Contact:

Re: Creep (draft)

Post by JohnDroese » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:19 am

Zaychi wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:23 am
Thanks guys... I'll look into replacing or altering those cello's in the chorus, wasn't too happy with them myself. As for the falsetto, well... when I tried, the pitch was all over, and melodyning it (actually used it for the first time in this track, it is really cool!) made it feel really artificial and out of style with the main vocal. The "door" is REALLY REALLY too high up for me. Maybe I'll try recording it again a few notes lower and then just pitching it up.

Crash, whenever I use my "gravelly low" voice, it gets returned for sounding too "old"... I think I'll stick with this register.

Thanks again!
Just work that falsetto remember with Melodyne you just have to get close.... relax into it.... or you can try keeping that full voice and adding the falsetto on top might work....I think your vocal sounds great

User avatar
Zaychi
Committed Musician
Committed Musician
Posts: 508
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:09 am
Gender: Male
Location: Netherlands
Contact:

Re: Creep (draft)

Post by Zaychi » Sun Sep 27, 2020 6:22 am

2nd draft... revision list:
- Simplified the celli in the choruses, and added a distorted guitar to help create body;
- Main vocal pushed back, and less delay
- Falsetto piece! Very unsure about this one, please comment!
- Minor variety changes to continuous drum sections
- Huminazed most fast string stuff
- Specifically for Tom, about half a dB extra on the horns! ;)


https://soundcloud.com/zaychi/creep-dra ... N0EXBxqjCF

User avatar
CTWF
Serious Musician
Serious Musician
Posts: 2581
Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:02 am
Gender: Male
Location: Nowitzki's place of birth
Contact:

Re: Creep (draft)

Post by CTWF » Sun Sep 27, 2020 1:05 pm

Zaychi wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 6:22 am
2nd draft... revision list:
- Simplified the celli in the choruses, and added a distorted guitar to help create body;
- Main vocal pushed back, and less delay
- Falsetto piece! Very unsure about this one, please comment!
- Minor variety changes to continuous drum sections
- Huminazed most fast string stuff
- Specifically for Tom, about half a dB extra on the horns! ;)


https://soundcloud.com/zaychi/creep-dra ... N0EXBxqjCF
Hi Zaychi

I think it is better, especially the vocals. In my opinion, the falsetto is very good! I like the whole thing a lot. However, there are still several major issues with the production.

Look at your waveform: Where is the 3-part build-up in this one? For instance, look at my cr@p attempt below, even there you can see that. :) It almost feels as if the whole thing is over-compressed.

You seem to use the right crashy sounds for trailers right from the start, but they don't bang, they go under. They would have to have much more bottom to them.
Further to that, when you come back in at 1:47, this would have to be an epic, groundshaking event. It almost goes under, because before that the track's loudness seems to be maxed out already, is already too busy.

Short strings from 2:52 on don't work for me. They do not sound natural enough. At the very end I hear noise and even a recorder being switched off, or something. Needs to go!

So, I think you are getting closer. This is good in terms of vocals and composition. But the production needs work! :)

Tom

https://soundcloud.com/ctwf --> 0|°_°|0 <--

User avatar
Zaychi
Committed Musician
Committed Musician
Posts: 508
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:09 am
Gender: Male
Location: Netherlands
Contact:

Re: Creep (draft)

Post by Zaychi » Sun Sep 27, 2020 1:29 pm

CTWF wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 1:05 pm
You seem to use the right crashy sounds for trailers right from the start, but they don't bang, they go under. They would have to have much more bottom to them.
What exactly do you mean by that? Not just an EQ thing, I guess?

User avatar
CTWF
Serious Musician
Serious Musician
Posts: 2581
Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:02 am
Gender: Male
Location: Nowitzki's place of birth
Contact:

Re: Creep (draft)

Post by CTWF » Sun Sep 27, 2020 1:35 pm

Zaychi wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 1:29 pm
What exactly do you mean by that? Not just an EQ thing, I guess?
Right. I think for one you somewhat overuse them (they later are the main percussive element, and often don't add that much anyway, as they go under), but I also think that vocals and strings are too loud in comparison. They also sound a little boxy to me. Not sure why. Maybe a reverb thing? Maybe someone else feels/hears similarly and can opinionate/explain.

EDIT: Essentially, I think, these kind of crashes/stabs pretty much need to stand alone when they come in so the full impact is felt. They should not have to compete against strings and vocals, if that makes sense.
https://soundcloud.com/ctwf --> 0|°_°|0 <--

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 9 guests