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Gentle Natural Percussion and/or drums?

Post by Telefunkin » Mon May 07, 2018 6:07 am

Several times I've been in need of some gentle percussion using natural or organic instruments (but not orchestral and certainly not electronic hits). I can throw together loops or individual samples of various percussion instruments but I wondered whether there are other things that I'm not aware of. Here's one of the most suitable things I've found so far....
https://www.iwantthatsound.com/organic-perc
I'd happily buy this set and I'm sure it would meet many of my needs, but I just wondered what else there is. For example, is there an organic equivalent of some of the electronic percussion Kontakt instruments that have loops on keys (e.g. Evolve)? I've tried brushed drums but even those can be a bit heavy. So, if you wanted a very light rhythmic/percussive backing to support a gentle acoustic guitar piece, what would you use? Any thoughts much appreciated.
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Post by Len911 » Mon May 07, 2018 7:11 am

There's a couple drumdrops albums, Royal drops and Motown, that have congas, tambourine, handclaps, shakers.
Much probably could be the drumming style, for example Al Jackson, jr., that never seems to overwhelm the track, not many crash
cymbals, many light ride hit patterns for example. The Royal drops tracks emulates his style, but you can listen to any Otis Redding or other stax recordings, and Al Green to get a taste of his drumming style.

https://www.drumdrops.com/recording/royal-drops
https://www.drumdrops.com/recording/60s-motown-drops

there are different packs for the loops of each track, the stems are mixed, the multitrack sessions aren't mixed so you can mix the
mics for the sound you wish and then cut your own loops. the mt sessions are only $8.03 per track. that might be the most organic
method to get the sound you are after.
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Post by Telefunkin » Tue May 08, 2018 1:48 am

Thanks for the tip on Drum Drops Len. Wow, back in the late 1970's or early 80's I had a Drum Drops vinyl album of backing tracks. I thought the scratches were part of the percussion :) They must have been the first company to provide such things, so I'm amazed they're still going. The tracks you linked to are very interesting and will come in handy so I'll certainly keep them for future reference. If I chopped back some of the main drum parts what's left might work for me in this case, but I'm still wondering what else is out there though.
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Post by Len911 » Tue May 08, 2018 4:29 am

Hey Graham, I think the gentle, natural, organic, might be throwing me off a little. I think most of the drum kit samples from different mfgs. have multiple velocity samples and also allow at least to mix the room mic with the component mic. Also, the style for the gentle acoustic guitar piece probably has to do more with what sounds natural. And the rhythms are what mainly distinguish
a style or genre.
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Post by andygabrys » Tue May 08, 2018 7:18 am

Ezdrummer Latin percussion expansion. It’s not only for Latin percussion and pretty flexible. You can take any of the midi included and modify as you need.

XLN also has a similar deal for Addictive drums.

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Post by Telefunkin » Tue May 08, 2018 9:07 am

Hey Graham, I think the gentle, natural, organic, might be throwing me off a little.
Sorry Len, I feel like a Taxi client asking for them to find me some tracks but I don't know what I want until I hear it ;) :lol:.
The best example I can think of is from the chorus section at about 50s onwards in this well-known song......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEkIou3WFnM
Ezdrummer Latin percussion expansion. It’s not only for Latin percussion and pretty flexible. You can take any of the midi included and modify as you need.
Of course Andy! I'd seen that expansion but somehow dismissed it because I wasn't looking for Latin styles in particular (not Timbales anyway), but it looks flexible enough to get some mileage from. Thanks, its now on my list. :)

I'm still thinking about what else there might be though. Hand drums? I also found this, which is something completely different that I'd not considered but might do for the price...
https://stormwave-audio.eu/introducing- ... tank-drum/
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Re: Gentle Natural Percussion and/or drums?

Post by cosmicdolphin » Tue May 08, 2018 10:12 am

Telefunkin wrote: I'm still thinking about what else there might be though
You could get a BopPad and play them yourself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkWHMR3kwoQ

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Post by Telefunkin » Tue May 08, 2018 10:35 am

You could get a BopPad and play them yourself
That's a great gadget Mark, and I would like one. My rhythmic playing wouldn't match even a half-decent drummer's but it'd be fun. Then again, I might as well play the rhythms on the keyboard. I had a Korg Wavedrum for a while and enjoyed playing with it, but I wasn't making the most of it so it had to go. :)
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Post by Len911 » Tue May 08, 2018 4:12 pm

the drummer is Russ Kunkel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mud_Slide ... ue_Horizon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russ_Kunkel Quite an impressive discography! He plays on AAron Neville "warm your heart" which is my reference cd.
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Re: Gentle Natural Percussion and/or drums?

Post by ernstinen » Thu May 10, 2018 2:28 pm

My favorite "gentle, natural percussion" instrument is a --- SALT SHAKER! Or anything else out of your spice cabinet that sounds good to you.

A must: Get you favorite microphone for this kind of thing. Put it CLOSE to your shaker, and turn the gain WAY up to capture all the little salt grains shaking around.

Another trick I've used is getting a metal bowl, and filling it half up with water. Put 2 condenser mics close-up (for a stereo effect) and gently tap the bowl with a drum stick, or the butt-end of a kitchen wooden spoon. Sounds great!

Hope this helps,

Ern 8-)

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