Gentle Natural Percussion and/or drums?

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Re: Gentle Natural Percussion and/or drums?

Post by Len911 » Mon May 07, 2018 7:11 am

There's a couple drumdrops albums, Royal drops and Motown, that have congas, tambourine, handclaps, shakers.
Much probably could be the drumming style, for example Al Jackson, jr., that never seems to overwhelm the track, not many crash
cymbals, many light ride hit patterns for example. The Royal drops tracks emulates his style, but you can listen to any Otis Redding or other stax recordings, and Al Green to get a taste of his drumming style.

https://www.drumdrops.com/recording/royal-drops
https://www.drumdrops.com/recording/60s-motown-drops

there are different packs for the loops of each track, the stems are mixed, the multitrack sessions aren't mixed so you can mix the
mics for the sound you wish and then cut your own loops. the mt sessions are only $8.03 per track. that might be the most organic
method to get the sound you are after.
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Re: Gentle Natural Percussion and/or drums?

Post by Len911 » Tue May 08, 2018 4:29 am

Hey Graham, I think the gentle, natural, organic, might be throwing me off a little. I think most of the drum kit samples from different mfgs. have multiple velocity samples and also allow at least to mix the room mic with the component mic. Also, the style for the gentle acoustic guitar piece probably has to do more with what sounds natural. And the rhythms are what mainly distinguish
a style or genre.
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Re: Gentle Natural Percussion and/or drums?

Post by andygabrys » Tue May 08, 2018 7:18 am

Ezdrummer Latin percussion expansion. It’s not only for Latin percussion and pretty flexible. You can take any of the midi included and modify as you need.

XLN also has a similar deal for Addictive drums.

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Re: Gentle Natural Percussion and/or drums?

Post by cosmicdolphin » Tue May 08, 2018 10:12 am

Telefunkin wrote: I'm still thinking about what else there might be though
You could get a BopPad and play them yourself

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Post by Len911 » Tue May 08, 2018 4:12 pm

the drummer is Russ Kunkel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mud_Slide ... ue_Horizon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russ_Kunkel Quite an impressive discography! He plays on AAron Neville "warm your heart" which is my reference cd.
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Re: Gentle Natural Percussion and/or drums?

Post by ernstinen » Thu May 10, 2018 2:28 pm

My favorite "gentle, natural percussion" instrument is a --- SALT SHAKER! Or anything else out of your spice cabinet that sounds good to you.

A must: Get you favorite microphone for this kind of thing. Put it CLOSE to your shaker, and turn the gain WAY up to capture all the little salt grains shaking around.

Another trick I've used is getting a metal bowl, and filling it half up with water. Put 2 condenser mics close-up (for a stereo effect) and gently tap the bowl with a drum stick, or the butt-end of a kitchen wooden spoon. Sounds great!

Hope this helps,

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Re: Gentle Natural Percussion and/or drums?

Post by Len911 » Sat May 12, 2018 4:12 am

Wow Len, he's been a busy boy! Now, if only there was a 'Kunkel for Kontakt' :lol:. Most things I've found seemed to be geared more towards big and aggressive sounds.
:lol: I hear ya! I'm not a drummer, but occasionally I'll notice when the drumming really fits the song, and like you, not overly big or aggressive. Jeff Porcaro, Al Jackson Jr., now Kunkel,lol! I sort of stumbled on some info somewhere, that got me looking at drum rudiments, and how many of the great drummers might have started with a jazz influence or background and knew and used the rudiments in their technique. Platinum loops has a military rudiments midi if you want to roll your own, though you might need to do a lot of tweaking.
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Re: Gentle Natural Percussion and/or drums?

Post by keithl » Thu May 17, 2018 9:51 pm

Here is another option

Shimmer Shake Strike
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Re: Gentle Natural Percussion and/or drums?

Post by Len911 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:41 pm

Graham, you mentioned Kontakt and Folk and I thought about this from drumdrops for half price until the 15th of this month.
https://www.pluginboutique.com/product/ ... akt-5-Pack

you don't like boom thwack? There are like 5 mics on most kit pieces, so you adjust the close and overhead and room mics to balance the sound, mix and match, to the mix you want. These kits also have brush samples, tambourines and shakers? The percussion though is usually a mix of the overhead and room mics. There are also 16 velocities and round robins.
https://www.drumdrops.com/drum-samples/ ... -kit/intro there is a vintage and a modern kit. There is also a 2 kit pack for kontakt player, but the drums are already mixed and no round robins?
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Re: Gentle Natural Percussion and/or drums?

Post by Len911 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:22 am

I bought a couple all sample kits and an mv kit. I don't have the full version of Kontakt, so I got all samples because they have the wavs of what's in the kontakt version, and am putting in the Independence sampler. It's a job,lol, there's about 17,000 samples!

I've been studying the kits,lol. You picked the modern over the vintage. the vintage has less close micing and more of room and kit micing, but maybe you prefer the Gretsch over the Ludwig? The Memphis Soul kit has the Gretsch but with more room and kit and no close micing. It doesn't have brushes, but it has congas, tambourine and shaker. Then there are snare choices,lol! There's a lot to compare between not only the kit pieces but how they are miced. :lol:

The Multi velocity pack I bought the Premier. I liked the snare, not really the rest of the kit, and it only had 3round robins in the all samples anyway, so I made 3 round robins myself using Sonnox transmod.

Good luck Graham, hope you find what you're looking for!
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