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Getting the click sounds out after I copy and paste

Post by charlie2 » Wed May 11, 2011 9:36 am

Hi everyone:

I do a lot of copy and pasting when recording with audio tracks.

The problem is, after I copy something, there's a click sound left when the copied part is played back.

I tried to reverse fade it which helped somewhat but it's not perfect. I usually just end up treaking it till it sounds passable, but I would like to know if there's a way to make it perfect.

Any ideas?

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Re: Getting the click sounds out after I copy and paste

Post by Mark Kaufman » Wed May 11, 2011 10:14 am

Which DAW are you using? In Cubase, there is a setting in Preferences called "snap to zero crossing" which may do the trick for you.

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Re: Getting the click sounds out after I copy and paste

Post by bobmelanson » Wed May 11, 2011 12:33 pm

most DAWs will also let you crossfade the clips. As short as possible as to not hear both parts.
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Re: Getting the click sounds out after I copy and paste

Post by mojobone » Wed May 11, 2011 8:08 pm

Most DAWs default to cutting clips at the zero crossing nearest to your timeline cursor, and for precisely this reason. Any modern DAW should allow you to check this as an option in a menu, somewhere, at the very least. If not, time for a new DAW; busy studio cats don't have time to crossfade every edit. ;)
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Re: Getting the click sounds out after I copy and paste

Post by cardell » Thu May 12, 2011 2:48 am

bobmelanson wrote:most DAWs will also let you crossfade the clips. As short as possible as to not hear both parts.
Yes, in Cubase, I always have "Auto-Crossfades" on...then I never have this problem. :)

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Post by bobmelanson » Thu May 12, 2011 11:03 am

mojobone wrote:Most DAWs default to cutting clips at the zero crossing nearest to your timeline cursor, and for precisely this reason. Any modern DAW should allow you to check this as an option in a menu, somewhere, at the very least. If not, time for a new DAW; busy studio cats don't have time to crossfade every edit. ;)
yup, definitely a last resort ... I guess I'm so used to crossfading clips on my regular gig ... I don't make the edits, I just fix 'em ;)

I just noticed that Pro Tools doesn't have this feature, unfortunately ...never really noticed before. I Used to use it in Cubase. I switched a few years ago as I have to deliver all my projects as Pro Tools sessions.
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Post by AlanDonohoe » Wed May 18, 2011 5:37 am

I remember having this problem when cutting/pasting audio parts using the bars as markers instead of snap-to-zero.

I found the reverse fade worked fine as long as it's superquick (i.e. zoom in real close and personal till you are looking at a single line of waveform). If you work in milliseconds, you won't hear any difference in attack, but the clicks will vanish.
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Post by fullbirdmusic » Fri May 27, 2011 11:59 pm

Busy studio cats don't have time to x-fade each one? I guess I take too much pride in my work, then! :)

I manually crossfade almost all of my edits. Most of them work just fine in Logic with the merge behavior set to crossfade when I move audio files around, but some of them just require more tweaking and I'm happy to do it. The results are always exactly what I want. I've found that I cannot rely on my DAW to automatically do what I want it to do and just manually doing those things saves more time than learning how to set up every tweak in the DAW.
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Re: Getting the click sounds out after I copy and paste

Post by mojobone » Sat May 28, 2011 2:53 am

I never cross-fade manually, unless I can hear a problem; if you've done it enough times with a razor blade, choosing where to cut your clips becomes second nature, and with enough zoom, I can get it pretty dang seamless. (I can recall, with an utter lack of fondness, many a white-knuckle punch-in from the ol' four and eight-track days) Then again, I'm one of those peeps that are philosophically opposed to editing a single note in an otherwise bitchin' performance; (unless it's MIDI, heh) I'll either play it again or leave it in, in most cases, and save the crossfades for creative edits.
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Re: Getting the click sounds out after I copy and paste

Post by fullbirdmusic » Sat May 28, 2011 3:08 am

mojobone wrote:choosing where to cut your clips becomes second nature, and with enough zoom, I can get it pretty dang seamless.

I thought that's what we meant by doing it manually :)
I try to not even use the fades if I can cut it well. I'm sure I'm too young to have ever done it with a razor ;)
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