I Need Real Help with this Gear stuff..Back to Basics 101:

Tell Your Friends about Gear that you love

Moderators: admin, mdc, TAXIstaff

ric4hitsongs
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 21
Joined: Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:54 am
Gender: Male
Location: Anaheim, CA
Contact:

I Need Real Help with this Gear stuff..Back to Basics 101:

Post by ric4hitsongs » Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:09 pm

I am a computer tech specialized in networking and hardware systems. I would like to ask if using a stand alone system is a better situation compared to a software based rig? something in the range of 200 or so.
Last edited by ric4hitsongs on Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:52 pm, edited 2 times in total.
"When your intake exceeds your output, then your upkeep could be your downfall"

User avatar
rld
Committed Musician
Committed Musician
Posts: 735
Joined: Sat Jan 31, 2004 7:13 am
Gender: Male
Contact:

Re: I Need Real Help with this Gear stuff..Back to Basics 101:

Post by rld » Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:10 pm

I think the most important question is what kind of person are you?
No..I don't mean that :lol: ...I mean are you computer savvy or do you not understand how they work?
If the thought of opening up a computer or installing cards, drivers, software, etc. scares you,
you may want to look at a stand alone recorder.
Think about that for a bit. ;)

ric4hitsongs
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 21
Joined: Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:54 am
Gender: Male
Location: Anaheim, CA
Contact:

Re: I Need Real Help with this Gear stuff..Back to Basics 101:

Post by ric4hitsongs » Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:54 pm

ummm excuse me?...
"When your intake exceeds your output, then your upkeep could be your downfall"

Len911
Total Pro
Total Pro
Posts: 5351
Joined: Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:13 pm
Gender: Male
Location: Peculiar, MO
Contact:

Re: I Need Real Help with this Gear stuff..Back to Basics 101:

Post by Len911 » Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:10 am

Software is basically more bang for the buck. There are many limitations in a standalone system. I believe there are even free software daws out there, can't vouch for them or their limitations. Of course with a software system you need an interface. Dollar for dollar though, there is much more value in a software based system.
https://soundcloud.com/huck-sawyer-finn
Not an expert on contemporary music

User avatar
cardell
Serious Musician
Serious Musician
Posts: 2815
Joined: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:43 pm
Gender: Male
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Contact:

Re: I Need Real Help with this Gear stuff..Back to Basics 101:

Post by cardell » Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:53 am

I'm enjoying the software approach. It's just so flexible. :)

However...I also use a Zoom H4 to record acoustic tracks because of how quiet the tracks sound (no computer fan noise etc..).

Stuart
Cardell Music
Image Image
“When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." - Jimi Hendrix

User avatar
rld
Committed Musician
Committed Musician
Posts: 735
Joined: Sat Jan 31, 2004 7:13 am
Gender: Male
Contact:

Re: I Need Real Help with this Gear stuff..Back to Basics 101:

Post by rld » Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:14 am

ric4hitsongs wrote:ummm excuse me?...
Well, in your initial post you didn't say you were a computer tech so I was wondering if a computer was right for you.
Apparently so. :D
Like the other responses said, hands down a computer based DAW is the most powerful, flexible way to go.

billg1
Committed Musician
Committed Musician
Posts: 957
Joined: Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:07 am
Gender: Male
Contact:

Re: I Need Real Help with this Gear stuff..Back to Basics 101:

Post by billg1 » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:50 pm

I think if you're recording mostly real instruments (as opposes to VSTs) a strong case can be made for tracking in a standalone and mixing ITB. IMO if you have quality preamps & good outboard gear it's much simpler and more creative tracking on a dedicated recorder/mixer (actual faders etc.) and then dumping the tracks into the DAW of your choice.
it depends on what you're used to.

User avatar
mojobone
King of the World
King of the World
Posts: 11837
Joined: Sat May 17, 2008 4:20 pm
Gender: Male
Location: Up in Indiana, where the tall corn grows
Contact:

Re: I Need Real Help with this Gear stuff..Back to Basics 101:

Post by mojobone » Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:54 pm

The answer probably rests with your tolerance for latency, rather than for computers themselves. I record mostly live instruments, using software, but I have direct monitoring built into my audio interface. Nice thing about hardware, though; you plug it in, turn it on, hit record-you're in business, no naming a project, generating a track or tracks, selecting inputs/outputs nor even waiting to boot up....
The Straight Stuff; Roots, Rock & Soul

http://twangfu.wordpress.com
http://twitter.com/mojo_bone

User avatar
t4mh
Serious Musician
Serious Musician
Posts: 1446
Joined: Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:05 pm
Gender: Male
Location: Indiana
Contact:

Re: I Need Real Help with this Gear stuff..Back to Basics 101:

Post by t4mh » Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:07 am

ric4hitsongs wrote:I am a computer tech specialized in networking and hardware systems. I would like to ask if using a stand alone system is a better situation compared to a software based rig? something in the range of 200 or so.
The most powerful computer music systems are made up of computers networked together. That said networking computers for audio and composition is nothing like simple Lan or Enterprise networking with IP and DHCP. These computers should be somewhat "heavy weights" in terms of performance. When you ask, "something in the range of 200 or so", I'm not sure what you are asking. $200? If this is what you mean, I don't see it happenin' and you should probably think about adding a zero to each machine... Please explain.

Keith
I hear the voice of God in a bending guitar string!
Life is too important to be taken seriously
No electrons were harmed in the construction of this message.
http://www.t4mh.com

User avatar
mojobone
King of the World
King of the World
Posts: 11837
Joined: Sat May 17, 2008 4:20 pm
Gender: Male
Location: Up in Indiana, where the tall corn grows
Contact:

Re: I Need Real Help with this Gear stuff..Back to Basics 101:

Post by mojobone » Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:21 am

If you're recording a single live instrument or a small acoustic ensemble, you can get decent to good results with a Zoom H2, ($179, street) but you wouldn't have much miking flexibility and you'd still need at least one other machine for overdubbing/mixing. A Zoom R16 ($399, street) works standalone OR with a computer; that and a couple of microphones, stands, cables, a set of headphones and an SD card would make a good starter outfit.
The Straight Stuff; Roots, Rock & Soul

http://twangfu.wordpress.com
http://twitter.com/mojo_bone

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 16 guests