In Time, We Rise [Emotional Uplifting Piano/Orechestral Cue]
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Re: In Time, We Rise [Emotional Uplifting Piano/Orechestral Cue]
Are there tymps in with the low strings (I'm listening on a cheap USB portable speaker in a hotel room)? A tymp roll into the big moment might carry the 'riser' effect. I do like the low strings, BTW. A nice emotionally strong anchor point, don't ya know.
Maybe pulling the high strings back and giving them some 'air' to allow the piano to continue front and center could help avoid the dreaded synth string sound. And, yeah, the ending sounds cut off. Don't leave the listeners hanging, They must be 'lifted up'
My suggestion would be a big tonic 'G' major ringing out there at least as long as the pause before the big moment.
Maybe pulling the high strings back and giving them some 'air' to allow the piano to continue front and center could help avoid the dreaded synth string sound. And, yeah, the ending sounds cut off. Don't leave the listeners hanging, They must be 'lifted up'
My suggestion would be a big tonic 'G' major ringing out there at least as long as the pause before the big moment.
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Re: In Time, We Rise [Emotional Uplifting Piano/Orechestral Cue]
Hello Alan and thanks for the great feedback. Yes on the tymp roll at the end. It's there but I was afraid to bring it too high in the mix since the call warned against being too big - but it's totally necessary there right!!?AlanHall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:34 pmAre there tymps in with the low strings (I'm listening on a cheap USB portable speaker in a hotel room)? A tymp roll into the big moment might carry the 'riser' effect. I do like the low strings, BTW. A nice emotionally strong anchor point, don't ya know.
Maybe pulling the high strings back and giving them some 'air' to allow the piano to continue front and center could help avoid the dreaded synth string sound. And, yeah, the ending sounds cut off. Don't leave the listeners hanging, They must be 'lifted up'
My suggestion would be a big tonic 'G' major ringing out there at least as long as the pause before the big moment.
Resolving to the G does have appeal! I admit, that was one of several "artist vs. production value" questions I was wrestling with. Does it need to resolve to uplift...? I honestly would love thoughts on this. Is it good practice to always resolve cues? Does it limit possible uses to not do so and visa versa? I will spend some time on the forwards board in the coming days and research this question.
Hard time to have to travel - stay safe out there Alan and thanks again!
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My pleasurerpeckyno wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:28 pmThanks Marco - great feedback! I agree the strings could be better. I tried layering multiple different string sounds to help with it, but that was my #1 complaint that I was unable to fix...
Am going to try and quickly knock out a version with a longer ring out while there is still time!
Big thanks again Marco!
What strings are you using? And are you automating the crossfades? It also helps to not have them play big chords, just adding even a little bit of melodic movement to each separate section makes a tonne of difference
Always resolve, never let things hangingrpeckyno wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:05 pmHello Alan and thanks for the great feedback. Yes on the tymp roll at the end. It's there but I was afraid to bring it too high in the mix since the call warned against being too big - but it's totally necessary there right!!?AlanHall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:34 pmAre there tymps in with the low strings (I'm listening on a cheap USB portable speaker in a hotel room)? A tymp roll into the big moment might carry the 'riser' effect. I do like the low strings, BTW. A nice emotionally strong anchor point, don't ya know.
Maybe pulling the high strings back and giving them some 'air' to allow the piano to continue front and center could help avoid the dreaded synth string sound. And, yeah, the ending sounds cut off. Don't leave the listeners hanging, They must be 'lifted up'
My suggestion would be a big tonic 'G' major ringing out there at least as long as the pause before the big moment.
Resolving to the G does have appeal! I admit, that was one of several "artist vs. production value" questions I was wrestling with. Does it need to resolve to uplift...? I honestly would love thoughts on this. Is it good practice to always resolve cues? Does it limit possible uses to not do so and visa versa? I will spend some time on the forwards board in the coming days and research this question.
Hard time to have to travel - stay safe out there Alan and thanks again!
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Re: In Time, We Rise [Emotional Uplifting Piano/Orechestral Cue]
I think there's too much echo on the piano in the softer passages. In stuff like this you need to FEEL the delay, but not HEAR it. That works for the "busier" sections, but not when the piano is (almost) alone.
And yeah, the ending is very bad, but I guess you fixed that already.
And yeah, the ending is very bad, but I guess you fixed that already.
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Made it home tonight, hopefully I am still well... I may get the chance to self-isolate for a few days to be sure. It does feel good - physically AND emotionally - to be in my safe space; that's either with my guitars or with my wife, depending on who you ask!
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Hello Zaychi and thanks! I'll def. keep that in mind for the next one(s) as I very often use a delayed piano both melodically and rhythmically.Zaychi wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:04 pmI think there's too much echo on the piano in the softer passages. In stuff like this you need to FEEL the delay, but not HEAR it. That works for the "busier" sections, but not when the piano is (almost) alone.
And yeah, the ending is very bad, but I guess you fixed that already.
I did fix the ending to be more defined and have a longer ring out. Still not 100% happy with the ending, but time was up so I submitted and moved on to the next one.
Thanks again for the listen and feedback!
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