Melodyne, Baby!

[feaker66]

moj

variable temperament....yeah it pisses me off once in awhile

I never touch any notes that are scouped and aren't quite in the lines. You can tell visually that they are a mess. If you try and tweak there it's over. My grandson had a bunch of those, and I didn't touch them. They are however, off.(dramatic singer that he is) Should be resung at that point. I do however catch the next couple that might be flat with that series.

Just hit the loner bad ones, and NO don't just hit "fixem all 100%" button. Takes the personality right out and sounds fake.

No brainer program, even for me.

haha

[mojobone]

Pianos have equal temperament; string players, vocalists and most woodwinds have just intonation. This is why some keys sound more 'in tune' than others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_intonation

[cardell]

I just had an opportunity to see Melodyne editor (with DNA Direct Note Access) in operation at my friend's studio tonight.

I can't believe how amazing it is...

I took a wave file, with a stereo synth track on it, and he was able to change individual notes in my chords and even delete certain notes from within my chords...
...in an audio file!!!

Stuart

[guitarhacker]

I have Melodyne Editor.

Sorry, I didn't listen to the samples you posted. I didn't think it was needed. I have heard what ME can do. It is very impressive when it is used properly.

What I have discovered about melodyne is: As long as the singer is pretty close to pitch, ME will do a superb job on the automatic setting, perhaps with a few manual tweaks, in getting the vox to sound really good and most important....transparent.

I have used it to create a harmony vocal from a lead vocal...and the amazing thing is, it was not riddled with artifacts, In fact unless you know in advance that it was a "created part"..you would never be able to tell. This song: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_so ... ID=8575294 at 30 seconds in, the female vocal was originally unison to the male vox. I used ME to move the notes to a harmony.

Sometimes, however, when doing a manual edit, moving a note that is scooped by the singer, the "after" is worse then the "before". There are artifacts left behind that really sound bad.....well fake anyway, and in country music, that sticks out like a sore thumb.

One thing I always, always, always do when working in ME..... save the original track so you can always start again.... save frequently as well. I also now use a 50% setting for pitch and drift rather than a 100% setting. I find it works and sounds better.

I have used it on vocals with great results, and also on solo instruments. I have used it to "stretch" a short sax note and the result, when combined with a volume envelope was nothing short of amazing.

The editor version is supposed to be poly. I have tried it on a piano part.... and the results were less than exciting. It can remove notes in a chord better than it can change them,,,,, at least on my DAW, that's how it is. So I try NOT to use it, or need to use it in poly mode.

All in all, when used properly, it is quite sweet.

[pboss]

...Like viagra....getting up there...

Ha ha ha. I feel inspired. I want a Melodyne. And then sing my heart out, until there's tears in my eyes (and Ella Fitzgerald crystal broken). Sounds like a good time.

[matto]

Definitely one of the most useful studio tools ever...of course, like with just about every tool, there's a time to use it and a time not to...

[Mark Kaufman]

I have VariAudio in Cubase, which works the same way as Melodyne. I love it too--especially when you have a performance with a couple pitch errors, but the VIBE was perfect.

I like how you can fix it just a little or fix it a lot. You can fine tune timings and the endings of phrases, and you can slam it hard for effect if you like.

I understand the hardcore "people should just sing in tune, goll darn it" faction...but that's their problem.

[Hookjaw Brown]

I like to look at the wave forms in Cubase VariAudio after the singer has performed a track. I can tell if a new performance should be done immediately from the waver-forms and give some directions for a new take. It means less editing if the performance is dead on. Sounds more "natural" also in that the singer's timber and attack have better control. Marvelous tool, but just a tool.

[matto]

I like to look at the wave forms in Cubase VariAudio after the singer has performed a track. I can tell if a new performance should be done immediately from the waver-forms and give some directions for a new take. It means less editing if the performance is dead on. Sounds more "natural" also in that the singer's timber and attack have better control. Marvelous tool, but just a tool.

Some singers' wave forms are 'waver-forms' regardless of direction LOL...that's one of those situations where one would use the singer, and Melodyne, only if there are no other options available (such as, the 'singer' is the client...)

[jonathansorensen]

I have VariAudio in Cubase, which works the same way as Melodyne. I love it too--especially when you have a performance with a couple pitch errors, but the VIBE was perfect.

I like how you can fix it just a little or fix it a lot. You can fine tune timings and the endings of phrases, and you can slam it hard for effect if you like.

I understand the hardcore "people should just sing in tune, goll darn it" faction...but that's their problem.

I've used both VariAudio and Melodyne. VariAudio is a great tool. I haven't pushed it to the extent I've pushed Melodyne and I suspect it can't keep up but I find I can track a harmony part almost as fast as creating one so, I haven't really explored all the possibilities. I would love to hear from anyone who's pushed both of these programs to see what the differences are.

JS