The "Sonar" blues...

[og]

Also Scott Garrigus' Digifreq.com (I think) He wrote the SONAR Power! books. I have SONAR 6 Power, and it's very helpful. SONAR isn't as easy as Kristal, but it's more versatile and way easier than Ableton Live!

[timmcallister]

Jul 22, 2008, 8:14pm, hotjams wrote: I was looking at Reaper and Tracktion, but I think I will give Sonar a few more days. it of course comes down to what YOU want and need in a DAW. Sonar is a popular DAW. Lots of people love it. I rode that train from Sonar Producer 3 through 6. But endless problems caused me to look elsewhere, and I found reaper gave me stability, ease of use, and every feature I used in Sonar. 6 months after that I tried Ableton Live and bought it the next day. I now use Live about 80% of the time, and Reaper the other. Ableton is far from perfect, but it works better for me than anything else currently available.And for whatever it's worth, I used pro tools for 5 years, Studio vision pro for a few years, the old cakewalk, and a few others.Good luck in your trials/search. There's a lot of good tools out there, you just have to find what works best for you.peace!

[timmcallister]

Jul 24, 2008, 2:36pm, og wrote:SONAR isn't as easy as Kristal, but it's more versatile and way easier than Ableton Live!ha! i respectfully take exception to that. There is a bit of a learning curve, because it's a significant paradigm shift. Once you get it, well... once I got it. I would never go back. I find it incredibly easy to use, and more importantly, it supports my workflow in a way Sonar (or any linear DAW) never could . blanket statements are dangerous love and peace!

[wodinlord]

OK, I will issue the obligatory paean to Protools - someone has to. I would NEVER use anything else again. NEVER!!! I have found it to be the easiest, most logical and powerful DAW there is, but that's just me. There are less expensive DAW's, but they all come with tons of limitations and you can get into a starter PT kit really cheaply.WodinlordDigidesign is not responsible for the content of this opinion. It's all mine.

[davekershaw]

Jul 24, 2008, 2:36pm, og wrote:Also Scott Garrigus' Digifreq.com (I think) He wrote the SONAR Power! books. I have SONAR 6 Power, and it's very helpful. SONAR isn't as easy as Kristal, but it's more versatile and way easier than Ableton Live!The Power Tools book is excellent, and well worth the investment.Learnt a lot from the YouTube videos too: Mixing, Session Drummer 2, V-Vocal, there's lots on there.Stick with it Hotjams.

[mojobone]

Y'all just need some perspective; try MIDI sequencing with a Kawai GMega and a Brother PDC-100 sometime.

[ibanez468]

I've still got my Brother MDI-30 MIDI Disk Composer. What a dinosaur! I-468

[og]

Jul 24, 2008, 8:21pm, timmcallister wrote:Jul 24, 2008, 2:36pm, og wrote:SONAR isn't as easy as Kristal, but it's more versatile and way easier than Ableton Live!ha! i respectfully take exception to that. There is a bit of a learning curve, because it's a significant paradigm shift. Once you get it, well... once I got it. I would never go back. I find it incredibly easy to use, and more importantly, it supports my workflow in a way Sonar (or any linear DAW) never could . blanket statements are dangerous love and peace!Allow me to emend that. I meant SONAR is more versatile than Kristal, and way easier (for me) than Live! The only part of Live I miss is the ability to trigger loops randomly. The rest of it was a PITA. I can see where it would be great for performance work, and more electronic music, but for a folkie it took way too many brain cells to run. So, more power to ya, bro! Use what works for you, and I'll do likewise.

[mojobone]

Ableton's the bee's pajamas for live remixing of loop-based music, but it's really not designed for folks who record in linear fashion; I don't think it's too much of a blanket statement to say that people who play real instruments in realtime tend to prefer programs like Tracktion. I use both, myself.