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Bm7b5? Casey, are you SURE you are a guitarist?

[Casey H]

Quote:Bm7b5? Casey, are you SURE you are a guitarist? Yup, but I cheated on that one... I had to look it up to be sure... Not that I can't play that chord if I really have to.... It's pretty irrelvant to most of us, most of the time... Casey

[ephlat66]

Quote:Quote:When you hear people saying things like "I-IV-I" they are talking about chords and what number they are in the scale. So, for example, if your song was in the key of "A" then a I-IV-I progression would be "A-D-A." Also, depending on whether your song is in a minor or major key, each chord in the scale is usually specifically a minor or major chord. -SteveIn the key of C, it would be:I--II---III--IV--V--VI----VIIC-Dm--Em--F--G--Am---Bm7b5 It's easier in the key of C because there are no sharps or flats in any of the notes of the chords.I just started thinking this way recently after years of not... So, if this is incorrect, please let me know. CaseyAhhhh... yes I see. (Is that a light bulb over my head? Why is it flickering?)This notation is still not clear: I-IVmi6 progression. I guess in C it would be C to Fm? If I could remember what chord I used in the song in question I could figure it out. I wrote this a year ago, and have no recall. My brain only has the capacity to hold the ingredients of whatever I'm currently working on. One of the many reasons I'll never perform live.

[ddusty]

I need to listen again to be sure, will get a chance later, but i think it's I-IV-vi.it goes between the I and the IV (C and F), somewhere at the end of the vs it hits the vi chord (Am)Rob

[matto]

Quote:[quote author=hurowitz board=peer thread=1199574554 post=1199665352]This notation is still not clear: I-IVmi6 progression. I guess in C it would be C to Fm? Correct...C (major) to F minor 6. Actually your song is in D so it's D to Gmi6 [G-Bb-(D)-E]. I think you're actually playing the E as kind of a suspension and then resolve it to D.Later on it moves elsewhere but it's that repeated D-Gmi6 that's "dated".

[Casey H]

Quote:Quote:[quote author=hurowitz board=peer thread=1199574554 post=1199665352]This notation is still not clear: I-IVmi6 progression. I guess in C it would be C to Fm? Correct...C (major) to F minor 6. Actually your song is in D so it's D to Gmi6 [G-Bb-(D)-E]. I think you're actually playing the E as kind of a suspension and then resolve it to D.Later on it moves elsewhere but it's that repeated D-Gmi6 that's "dated". MattoBefore reading your posts, I never thought of chord structures as modern or dated. I just assumed you could use most any structure (maybe not the standard 50s C-Am-F-G7 thing) and let the rest of the arrangement dictate the era. You've made me think-- this is a good eye opener for me. I generally write what I like, using the chord patterns that go with the creative flow. What are some chord structures that best represent more current sounding rock music? I hear a lot of I-IV-V and a lot of power chords around that.Thanks,Casey

[ephlat66]

Quote:MattoBefore reading your posts, I never thought of chord structures as modern or dated. I just assumed you could use most any structure (maybe not the standard 50s C-Am-F-G7 thing) and let the rest of the arrangement dictate the era. You've made me think-- this is a good eye opener for me. I generally write what I like, using the chord patterns that go with the creative flow. What are some chord structures that best represent more current sounding rock music? I hear a lot of I-IV-V and a lot of power chords around that.Thanks,CaseyDitto! I'm so glad someone else asked this question, cuz I was about to.

[vicky]

a little trick with these progressions....change the bass note.....it's called a slash chord...pick another chord tone....and it'll refresh the highly used chords....and at the same time sound totally familiar.....Stevie Wonder is a master at this....also leave that bottom string alone, and try the progressions you know, you'll be surprised at the difference when that I IV V root motion is not there....I actually take off the bottom E of the guitar when I record, so cliches are tougher to come up with...Vicky

[geo]

Quote:Quote:Taxi is not related to underground stuff....it is a business with specific boundaries that's one of the wisest statements I've seen on this forum. If more new members realized this, they'd be less frustrated. The market is *not* going to conform to you, you have to conform to It. Mind you, I had to learn this the hard way too. Most of us did. And yes, I thought 'conforming' to the needs of the market meant selling out my artistry and creativity. But I finally realized that's not true at all. I'm just packaging my artisty to sell, the content is the same.Yeah, it took me a little bit to understand that despite the obvious genius of my material (that's a joke BTW) if they want sappy pop you gotta give em sappy pop or save your 5 bucks... Geo

[ephlat66]

An interesting update here (although I'm inclined to put to bed the little rant that started this thread):Although the song "All Night Long" was not forwarded, the screener indicated that is WAS on target for the listing (Hot AC/Modern Pop) and commented that it had a "nice pop style" and that I had "created a very nice groove here." The screener's main critique had to do with the lyric being not strong enough(especially in the chorus) and that the chorus didn't "build" enough to a strong hook.So who knows? Maybe some refining of this one is worthwhile.Thanks for all your help guys!