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[Salty]

INTENSE and DRAMATIC ORCHESTRAL CUES in the style of “Carmina Burana” by Carl Orff to The Ride of the Valkyries” by Richard Wagner, etc., needed by successful Music Placement Company for various Film/TV placements. QUOTING THE SOURCE: “We need original :30, :60, and :90 second cues that have a dramatic impact. No fade outs, button endings only.” Be sure your ORIGINAL cues have an EPIC and DRAMATIC feel similar to the referenced pieces. Make creative use of your current sounds and samples - be sure your cues sound like a REAL orchestra. Although they gave us “Carmina Burana” as a reference, please don’t submit cues with vocals of any sort. ALL submissions must be strictly instrumental. Instrumental presentation must sound Top Notch! Broadcast quality needed (excellent home recordings are okay). Please submit one to three cues online or per CD. All submissions will be screened on a YES/NO BASIS - NO CRITIQUES FROM TAXI - and must be received no later than 10:00AM (PDT) on Friday, October 12, 2012. TAXI #D121012IN

Okay- Here is what the screener said- and I do appreciate the kind words: (I know, I just need to STFU-thats me, not the screener)


"This is a nice sounding track, with a sophisticated and convincing arrangement. The overall feel of the song is more optimistic than the dramatic and intense mood requested in the listing description."

I dont get it- Im hitting my head against the wall now- please stop me before it makes a bigger dent.

http://soundcloud.com/saltysalt-1/lesoeil30secondcue-b

[hummingbird]

Stop beating your head against the wall

Excellent cue sent to the wrong listing IMO.

It feels lively, teensy bit quirky, great for comedy or light action. It is not intense, epic, dramatic.

Maybe an idea would be write out things (sounds, instruments, rythm) that make a piece of music epic, intense, dramatic...

this is Epic, Dramatic and Intense
http://youtu.be/vLqKSv1F42A

JMHO

[Len911]

Personally I find most of my 'classical' favorites are intense and dramatic, to me the examples they gave are masculine intense and dramatic, and I would consider your piece more of a feminine intense and dramatic, such as Habanera-Bizet or Nutcracker Overture-Tchaikovsky. The masculine being more about triumph, war, conquest and the feminine being more about love, birds, flowers. That's only my uneducated viewpoint, I don't even know if there is such a thing as an official masculine or feminine designation for this.

[Salty]

Hey Hummingbird-

Thanks for the reply- appreciate the thought- and actually if the examples they gave were different Id totally agree;
The reason Im thinking differently is because the pieces they wanted are the Valkyries and Carmina Buranna-
2 very classically oriented orchestral pieces that dont have those big huge drum sounds like the Hans Zimmer score you have would have asked for.


Len-
also thanks for the thoughts on masculine vs feminine- I know they talk about that in world music a lot- but thats an interesting analogy.

[mazz]

Your piece sounds dramatic to me in the "time is passing and serious people are walking somewhere on the street and the scene is being set", rather than "intense and dramatic and the walking people suddenly find themselves in the middle of an action film trailer!"

Your piece didn't have the "epic" quality that is so common these days, although it was dramatic. But the drama was almost more dramedy than straight up drama.

My 2c.

Cool piece!!

[Salty]

Thanks Mazz and folks-
Its frustrating for me- But I really do appreciate you guys listening and commenting; makes me feel a hair better!

[Cruciform]

Hey Salty,

Sorry I'm late to your party. I can only agree with what the others have said. Your piece is great and well done, but off-target. It's quirky, almost comedic, rather than the intense, dramatic action vibe that is evoked by Carmina and Valkyries. IMO, Carmina is tame compared to modern epic music. But it stands as the quintessential epic choral piece. I think the vibe this listing would be shooting for is the kind of thing you'd hear from Immediate Music or Two Steps From Hell, or, yes, Zimmer.

[Salty]

okay-

thanks Rob for the thoughts as always; Ive stopped hitting my head against the wall- mostly because the wall moved
Glad folks are here to comment, its actually one of the best parts of taxi I think.