Help with songwriting!

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Help with songwriting!

Post by katr09 » Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:30 pm

I want to write songs. I am not good at it. I have tried several times on my own, but I think I need help. I need someone to give me ideas and talk me through the whole process. Hit me up if you’d like to volunteer?

Thank you :)

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Re: Help with songwriting!

Post by andygabrys » Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:28 am

great books to read and get you started:

http://robinfrederick.com

Her stuff is amazingly complete and helpful. The first two shortcuts books are owned by just about everyone I know through the forum here.

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Re: Help with songwriting!

Post by CTWF » Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:47 pm

katr09 wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:30 pm
I want to write songs. I am not good at it. I have tried several times on my own, but I think I need help. I need someone to give me ideas and talk me through the whole process. Hit me up if you’d like to volunteer?

Thank you :)
Here is a good starting point:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7e40GkgzH8

10 Mistakes Songwriters Make with Robin Frederick

1. 04:53 - Not knowing what you're writing about. (Lyrics.)

2. 18:28 - Cram too much into one song. (Lyrics: Better deep than wide.)

3. 24:22 - Telling, not showing. (Use comparisons, images.)

4. 28:05 - Writing melodies that need more shape (contrast).

5. 37:17 - Not engaging the listener. Good to start right in the middle (of the story).

6. 51:40 - Lyric and music could be working together more effectively.

7. 56:04 - Writing songs that sound dated. (Today, melodies have more momentum, emotional trigger words.)

8. 1:06:55 - Waiting too late to ask what genre your are in. (Ask this at the start.)

9. 1:11:28 - Not writing enough, not growing your catalogue.

10. 1:17:35 - Not aiming your songwriting at a target. (Where are my strengths? What can I do efficiently?)

11.(Bonus!) 1:20:11 - Don't compete with the slowest car in the race. (Breaking in as an outsider requires that extra push.)

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