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Logic drummer?

Post by awalsh » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:42 pm

Hello!

I'm getting back into Taxi after a long break.

I've been using Logic as my DAW and I'd like to use Logic drummer. Is anyone using it for production music? Music cues, etc.?

Is it good enough or should I not waste time trying to figure it out and invest in something like superior drummer3?

I used sonoma wireworks drumcore on a few albums about 8 years ago but since then have worked with a live drummer so I haven't kept up with the technology.

Any advice is appreciated!

Thanks,
Alex

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Re: Logic drummer?

Post by gitanosoy » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:54 am

Logic drummer is amazing, used by a lot of professional engineers and producers, after all the samples are recorded from real drummers.

I personally give it two thumbs up and use it all the time.
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Re: Logic drummer?

Post by MBantle » Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:07 pm

awalsh wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:42 pm
Hello!

I'm getting back into Taxi after a long break.

I've been using Logic as my DAW and I'd like to use Logic drummer. Is anyone using it for production music? Music cues, etc.?

Is it good enough or should I not waste time trying to figure it out and invest in something like superior drummer3?

I used sonoma wireworks drumcore on a few albums about 8 years ago but since then have worked with a live drummer so I haven't kept up with the technology.

Any advice is appreciated!

Thanks,
Alex
+1 I use it all the time. You can also have the Logic Drummer module play other drum kits (Easy Drummer etc.). You just need to change the instrument on the insert in Logic. Check out the tutorials on Youtube.
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Re: Logic drummer?

Post by Ted » Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:34 pm

I love it. It's such a quick and easy way to get into the heart of arranging a project or writing a song without wasting time. I use it on my final mixes-- though I've been thinking of doing what Matt said-- converting the regions to MIDI files and then swapping out the samples with other 3rd party kits.

It bums me out that it seems Apple is going in other directions with Logic (beat-making/loops/etc), rather than expanding Drummer-- which to me is the best part of it. I haven't upgraded to 10.5 yet-- so correct me if I'm wrong, but I read about it and it seems they made no improvements to Drummer that I know of. There's so much potential-- Like a grid section instead of that goofy X/Y axis for when you know specifically where you want certain drums to hit-- you can do the surgery in MIDI/Piano Roll-- but it breaks the workflow.

It would be nice to have some new Drummers-- even for basic styles, like just maybe a few more rock/metal drummers. It would be awesome if they made it simple process where it could create a drum bus with individual tracks in the mixer for each drum, if you wanted it. EDIT-- I just now found out about using "Producer Kits" which makes it simple to route each piece of the kit to it's own mixer channel-- nested within a Track Stack. Pretty cool. I'm not seeing if there is a fast and easy way to bounce audio regions to each separate track though.
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Re: Logic drummer?

Post by awalsh » Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:03 pm

Thanks for the replies. Sounds like people are using it professionally, that’s cool. I’ve worked with it a little bit, going back and forth between the dum track and midi roll to try to craft an arrangement. I guess every program has its limitations. My drum programming skills are very basic at this point.
For a quick idea creator it seems ideal. I’ll dig into it more because I already have it and see what happens.
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Re: Logic drummer?

Post by Ted » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:42 am

Hey guys, I just found a GREAT video that demonstrates how to use Logic with third party drum instruments/samples. More than that, I think I've hit the gold mine as far as finding the best teacher of anything and everything related to audio production on YouTube. This guy's channel is called "dancetech". I'd never heard of him but stumbled on his channel a few days ago and watched his entire series of videos on EQ/Mixing and most of his series on compression. Phenomenal teacher.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6LJFlNlVaQ


He has a ton of videos on Logic. Hell, he does a whole series on T Racks 5 plugins that blew my mind.

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Re: Logic drummer?

Post by gabgar » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:11 am

To have Logic Drummer drive other 3rd party libraries, you'll need to make sure to include a mapping.
This is because each drum library extends the GM standard to using their own MIDI numbers.

Make sure to read the PDF's for all 3rd party drums to see all available drum pieces in each kit.

Because of this, I posted several Logic Pro X Scripts to support these mappings.
https://www.logicprohelp.com/forum/view ... 5&t=141718

The other thing I ran into was sometimes Logic Drummer uses a side stick where I want a snare instead, I can change the drum piece with the above script to do that.
If a drum piece velocity is too loud coming from Logic Drummer, the the other script I posted as well, I can change the velocity to a value I want.
Of course you can ultimately change a drum piece to another drum piece and really have fun experimenting. Example, instead of using a clap, switch out to a ride.

You should created an alias from Logic Drummer to your 3rd party drummer track, that's where using a mapping would make sense.

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Re: Logic drummer?

Post by gabgar » Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:29 am

Here's an example of those Logic scripts I wrote.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/5MNJTVxGCQ0

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Re: Logic drummer?

Post by gabgar » Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:24 pm

I created an alias from Logic Drummer to a 3rd party drum.
The thing that's cool with Ultrabeat, is for the unused slots, you can load a drum sample or any one hit sample in that unused slot and with the Logic script you see, you can point to that slot and now Logic Drummer will play that sample.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/jFzrSm7UFtQ

There's also nothing wrong with playing both Logic Drummer and a 3rd party drum as well.

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