is "hell" considered profanity?

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Re: is "hell" considered profanity?

Post by Lane1777 » Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:10 pm

I was starting to think, there was no souls around...lol

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Re: is "hell" considered profanity?

Post by cosmicdolphin » Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:08 pm

I can think of a bunch of songs with hell in...off top of my head

Highway to Hell - AC:DC

Bar Out of Hell - Meatloaf

All The Good Girls Go to Hell - Billy Eilish

To Hell with the World - David Ford

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Re: is "hell" considered profanity?

Post by jdstamper » Thu Apr 08, 2021 6:48 am

Interesting topic ...

It might depend on your target audience. I would guess in our "western" world ... North America, Europe, etc ... probably not a big deal. But in some other parts of the world it may be more taboo.

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Re: is "hell" considered profanity?

Post by Lane1777 » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:05 pm

jdstamper wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 6:48 am
Interesting topic ...

It might depend on your target audience. I would guess in our "western" world ... North America, Europe, etc ... probably not a big deal. But in some other parts of the world it may be more taboo.

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I agree with that.

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Re: is "hell" considered profanity?

Post by erynmichel » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:59 am

Agreed with Jim on the target audience, which I guess you can't know right now. Casey's suggestion on "clean mix available" is really smart. Maybe you can make two versions, one safe, one with helluvah.

But to your original question: American evangelical upbringing here, and my in-laws absolutely consider it a swear word.

Depending on the other lyrical context, you could do "I'm one HEY of a ride" and then it's a bit of a cheesy play on words. Would probably work better in country than in rock. Because this is the music business, just a note that I offer that suggestion free of any ownership or credit :lol: On my way to make a tee shirt for the rally that says "Will suggest lyrics in exchange for cookies."

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Re: is "hell" considered profanity?

Post by CTWF » Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:02 pm

erynmichel wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:59 am
But to your original question: American evangelical upbringing here, and my in-laws absolutely consider it a swear word.
My wife is from Indiana which is why Jim's assessment made me wonder a little - I'd be careful with the h-word in the Bible Belt. ;)

Then, there are people out there who even discourage the use of the word "hell-o". :lol: :roll:

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Re: is "hell" considered profanity?

Post by funsongs » Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:10 pm

Interesting word-study thread.
IMHO - "profanity" tends to refer more to provocative, suggestive, or aggravated speech - with an intent to be either shocking or offensive...
for the purpose of grabbing the listeners' attention.
"hell" as an expression, or "Hell" as a destination - could be used with such a wide variety of 'intention' - from comical to horror. :lol: :? :twisted:
Like others have written - 'context' is key. Thus - being careful about its use for a submit for Screener review is also an important consideration.

What emotion or mood are you trying to create using that word?
Is it the only choice you have to express or emphasize the message?
Is it only in there because it happens to rhyme?
Is it the most 'artistic' choice in your lexicon?

Not 'profane' in and of itself. But it's a word that can certainly be used if the intent is provoke someone or someone's feelings.
The thing about using profanity or vulgar language is that it's easy to do... maybe too easy - and doesn't require much creativity;
therefore it tends to get way over-used... and, ultimately - just plain boring.

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Re: is "hell" considered profanity?

Post by CTWF » Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:40 pm

There is a major TAXI-friendly music library which considers "hell" an "explicit" word. They have a list of such words and they request "clean" versions where those words are muted.

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Re: is "hell" considered profanity?

Post by Casey H » Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:27 am

CTWF wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:40 pm
There is a major TAXI-friendly music library which considers "hell" an "explicit" word. They have a list of such words and they request "clean" versions where those words are muted.

Tom
Yup. I recently singed a song called "To Hell And Back" with them and that is exactly what was required. It was no big deal at all and a great library.
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Re: is "hell" considered profanity?

Post by jdstamper » Sun Apr 18, 2021 4:57 pm

CTWF wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:02 pm
erynmichel wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:59 am
But to your original question: American evangelical upbringing here, and my in-laws absolutely consider it a swear word.
My wife is from Indiana which is why Jim's assessment made me wonder a little - I'd be careful with the h-word in the Bible Belt. ;)

Then, there are people out there who even discourage the use of the word "hell-o". :lol: :roll:

Tom
LOL I see your point, yes the definition of acceptable changes from person to person, and apparently from library to library.
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