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Feedback On Song Return Due To “Muddy” Production

Post by ThomasGoodlunas » Fri Jan 19, 2024 8:46 am

Hi Folks,

The screener liked my track but returned it due to the production. I would appreciate your ears regarding tips to get it to acceptance level, thank you in advance!

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Re: Feedback On Song Return Due To “Muddy” Production

Post by funsongs » Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:15 am

To these old-guy ears, what sounds 'muddy' seems to be your choice of 'distortion'/'fuzz' on the guitar work.
In an odd way - it's kinda contradictory to say: "Clean up the distortion" - but I'm thinking that's the issue.
Maybe experiment with some other 'dirty sounds', and clean it up.
:? :shock: 8-) :P :mrgreen:
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Re: Feedback On Song Return Due To “Muddy” Production

Post by VanderBoegh » Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:52 am

"Muddy" usually refers to an excess of bottom-end, while losing the high-end sparkle and crunch. I'm thinking you could solve this with your track by:

1) Lowering the volume of the bass guitar overall.
2) Removing some low-end out of the guitars and bumping up the mid & high range frequencies.
3) Add some more sparkle to the high-end EQ spectrum with the addition of a tambourine.

Those three easy things oughtta help considerably as a starting point!

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Re: Feedback On Song Return Due To “Muddy” Production

Post by ThomasGoodlunas » Fri Jan 19, 2024 11:13 am

funsongs wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:15 am
To these old-guy ears, what sounds 'muddy' seems to be your choice of 'distortion'/'fuzz' on the guitar work.
In an odd way - it's kinda contradictory to say: "Clean up the distortion" - but I'm thinking that's the issue.
Maybe experiment with some other 'dirty sounds', and clean it up.
:? :shock: 8-) :P :mrgreen:
Your mileage may vary.
Hope that helps.
Thank you Peter, I appreciate your suggestion! I'll try out some other sounds to hear how they sit in the mix.

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Re: Feedback On Song Return Due To “Muddy” Production

Post by ThomasGoodlunas » Fri Jan 19, 2024 11:35 am

VanderBoegh wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:52 am
"Muddy" usually refers to an excess of bottom-end, while losing the high-end sparkle and crunch. I'm thinking you could solve this with your track by:

1) Lowering the volume of the bass guitar overall.
2) Removing some low-end out of the guitars and bumping up the mid & high range frequencies.
3) Add some more sparkle to the high-end EQ spectrum with the addition of a tambourine.

Those three easy things oughtta help considerably as a starting point!

~~Matt
Thank you Matt for defining “muddy” and the specific points for correcting it. A tambourine does come in on the B sections but is really quite low. I’ll make the low end edits you recommend and work on the tambourine to get that sparkle throughout. I appreciate it!

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Re: Feedback On Song Return Due To “Muddy” Production

Post by Telefunkin » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:06 pm

Hi, there does seem to be a lot of low-end energy in your track. Things that can help include identify this and where its happening include checking with Izotope's Tonal Balance plugin...
https://www.izotope.com/en/products/ton ... rol-2.html
and also comparing with reference tracks using either the Metric AB plugin...
https://www.adptraudio.com/metric-ab
or using the Reference plugin...
https://www.masteringthemix.com/products/reference
These tools and checks are very useful under any circumstances but especially if you can't trust your monitoring. Also note that trying to 'correct' the final mix with EQ is not the best way of curing the problem. As Matt said, its better to re-balance the instruments occupying the low end, and you might also improve their separation by reducing the amount of overlapping frequencies (with care).
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Re: Feedback On Song Return Due To “Muddy” Production

Post by Paulie » Fri Jan 19, 2024 11:09 pm

Fun track, nice playing. To me it's the drums that bring the mud. The snare sounds like it's under a towel, and I can't really hear the cymbals. That snare needs to pop/crack. Open up an EQ on each track and make sure that your individual instruments have their own space in the frequenct spectrum. Kick and Bass will conflict, the guitar has a lot of low end that might be conflicting with the kick and bass, and the top end of the track is not really there for me. I think the music is great, just gotta work on the EQ.
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