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What do you think on this return?

Post by Casey H » Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:35 pm

The feedback: https://www.taxi.com/members/NgzgvadjQC ... uo2tHNkDhQ

The track: https://s.disco.ac/ctqhljdcdhtp
This one has gotten great response from libraries and a sync agent. That doesn't mean it's right for listing though I think this chorus is great for ads. What sayeth you? Forward or Return? Thanks! :D
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Re: What do you think on this return?

Post by BradleyHagen » Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:41 pm

Geez... I don't know man, this is pretty friggin solid, and I am not blowing smoke here Casey.... I am not a "pop" guy, but let me listen to the ref tracks..... maybe I can learn something from this for once too!
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Re: What do you think on this return?

Post by BradleyHagen » Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:48 pm

I disagree with the screener on the rhythmic aspect...it is very upbeat and grooving..... Maybe a harmony on the chorus ?? I don't know Dude, I think it belongs in a playlist with those other ref tracks, and there are some good ones there too...
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Post by WSAO » Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:22 pm

There are rhythm issues?
I'm a drummer and very picky with tempo and there's nothing wrong with the rhythm. Evertything is quantized to the grid (as almost every pop song)
Song / production is very current, maybe the guitar has a bit more rock and drive than the references but I don't think this is a problem.
Melody could be stronger?
References have more "happy", chill out melodies and this one is a bit more energetic with more drive, again don't see a problem but maybe is where the difference lies.
Tough one, mate.

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Re: What do you think on this return?

Post by Telefunkin » Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:12 am

I like the track and there's definitely a place for it. I agree with you that the chorus is good and ad-friendly, so I think you did a great job.

If I was to guess what the screener was getting at FOR THIS LISTING it would be the following ...
- the production is perhaps a bit 1-dimensional, so there's not a huge amount of contrast between the verses and choruses.
- the drum pattern is pretty constant, so the rhythm point is not associated with timing but with build, progression, dynamics.
- the vocal melody is not particularly memorable, so the 'ear worm' criteria in the listing is missing (and it would probably fail the 'old grey whistle test' :))
- there are few moments that stand out as strong musical hooks that are instantly memorable, so the 'ear-worm' thing is missing again.

Just my guesses though (and I know nothing :roll: ). However, I don't think you'll have a problem getting the song signed so I wish you luck with that.
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Re: What do you think on this return?

Post by Casey H » Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:21 am

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However, I don't think you'll have a problem getting the song signed so I wish you luck with that.
Thanks for the feedback. It is signed by very selective libraries and an even more selective sync agent. It was recently played for a supervisor who does a lot of ad placements and he loved it, kept a copy.

However, I recognize that it just might not have been right for THIS listing. Disappointed but that's show biz. ;)

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Post by macomposer » Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:30 am

I agree with all that's been said here. Casey - this is a great tune! (I got into the groove and was thinking why haven't I heard this song before... it had to have been around for a long time now :) )

I think Graham (Funkin' if I may :D ) is spot on.. each run through of the chorus could have been a bit bigger; there's nothing wrong with the rhythm at all - it is consistent and the check must have been about build, progression, dynamics. (which as an aside, I think that needs to be unpacked by the screener in their review... if Graham hadn't pointed that out, I'm not sure how many of us would have gotten to that. I know I didn't. I was thinking it was about the programming too.)

The one thought I did have was to add just a bit more ear candy, and a couple of subtle sweeps and fills. Strategically placed ear candy would help the choruses be bigger, and just give us a few (more - there is some ear candy already) things to hear. And I've noticed that for ads and cuts in promos and stuff, editors love things like fills, transitions and sweeps. Don't get me wrong, there are great edit points there already - everything I'm talking about is the last 2%, which for me always is the hardest last little bit to come up with and get right...

That's a tough break, but I am glad it's getting traction out there anyway.

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Re: What do you think on this return?

Post by BradleyHagen » Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:41 am

RE: "Ear Candy" - I have had screeners comment on some of my stuff on that as well... Not to SOUND naive (I am naive!) but are they talking strictly about risers, transitions, EQ/Filter Sweeps, and those types of "special effects?" I have always shied away from that stuff, thinking that it makes the track sound too "busy" I have always assumed that the libraries will ask for it if they want it??
Man, this opens up a whole new world for me! Does Casey's track have enough "Ear Candy?" How much is "enough?" And how much is genre specific?
I look forward to any and all comments!
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Re: What do you think on this return?

Post by macomposer » Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:11 am

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Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:41 am
RE: "Ear Candy" - I have had screeners comment on some of my stuff on that as well... Not to SOUND naive (I am naive!) but are they talking strictly about risers, transitions, EQ/Filter Sweeps, and those types of "special effects?" I have always shied away from that stuff, thinking that it makes the track sound too "busy" I have always assumed that the libraries will ask for it if they want it??
Man, this opens up a whole new world for me! Does Casey's track have enough "Ear Candy?" How much is "enough?" And how much is genre specific?
I look forward to any and all comments!
So, the ear candy thing is a little tricky. I look at it as being.. use and genre specific... So, if I see a listing that is for ads and promos for example, and it is more pop genre-based (as opposed to score genre-based), I'll want to include more(ish) ear candy. It's easy to over do it, so you have to be very careful... It's like listening to all the cool pop 80s tracks - even now when I listen to many of those, I'll hear something going on in the background of the mix that I don't hear unless I am closely listening...

Transitions (sweeps, risers, etc.) are a slightly different but related category. (Yes! I think of them as special EFX too.) They are ear candy in general, but they're almost more important because they are structurally important to the song... they're part of the form because they help get in and out of sections... (With regular ear candy, you not really going to miss it if it's not there.. It just adds a little something - a bit more depth to the track.) Also, I view transitions a little different because they're more recent - they come from EDM and the rise of the use of technology in music. Those same 80s pop songs won't (in most cases) have special efx like that.. they'll have ear candy, but not sweeps, risers and such.. (80s dance music - early house and such will, but those are not the pop songs we're looking for...)

Brad - I hope that's not super confusing...

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Re: What do you think on this return?

Post by BradleyHagen » Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:21 am

Makes perfect sense Mark- and I really appreciate your insights on this!
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