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Re: Kenny Kerner and the Dixie Chicks

Post by bitwhys » Tue Aug 22, 2006 3:49 am

Maines didn't criticize the Presidency, she criticized the man occupying the seat of power. If the American Revolution waited for the experts to deal with matters on their own and didn't rely on popular opinion the US would still be propping up the East India Trading Company.If nothing else, discussing the fallout of exercising her consitutional rights should at least help songwriters get a better grasp of their target audience. There was a time when "bias", which has come to often mean an opinion contrary to the accussor's, was assumed, not denied. The author did the readers a service by revealing his and refusing to sterilize history in the process.
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Re: Kenny Kerner and the Dixie Chicks

Post by hitwriter » Tue Aug 22, 2006 4:26 am

Quote:Maines didn't criticize the Presidency, she criticized the man occupying the seat of power. If the American Revolution waited for the experts to deal with matters on their own and didn't rely on popular opinion the US would still be propping up the East India Trading Company.If nothing else, discussing the fallout of exercising her consitutional rights should at least help songwriters get a better grasp of their target audience. There was a time when "bias", which has come to often mean an opinion contrary to the accussor's, was assumed, not denied. The author did the readers a service by revealing his and refusing to sterilize history in the process.Thank you for your viewpoint but I totaly disagree.The author did this reader no service and to say that the DC freeedom of speech under the "Bill of Rights" is violated because radio is still not playing their music is an absolute biased opinion by definition of an impartial judgement.Impartial because the author did not fully understand the Bill of Rights or used it falsely.Please show me where freedom of speech is a one way street?Furthermore, Maines herself has asked to be distanced from country music. She is only getting what she wished.The author (Kerner) should do a little more research if he wants to serve the songwriter.http://sayanythingblog.com/2006/01/31/n ... try_music/

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Re: Kenny Kerner and the Dixie Chicks

Post by bitwhys » Tue Aug 22, 2006 4:41 am

Quote:The author did this reader no service and to say that the DC freeedom of speech under the "Bill of Rights" is violated because radio is still not playing their music is an absolute biased opinion by definition of an impartial judgement.I think a closer reading of the article will reveal that is NOT what the author said although one would expect at least some people to read that into it. Personally, what I read into it was that her rights were not RESPECTED by an influencial proportion of the listening public. So be it. Also personally and considering exactly what it was she said, I find that in itself speaks volumes for the recent state-of-affairs in the USA. Again, so be it.
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Re: Kenny Kerner and the Dixie Chicks

Post by hitwriter » Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:02 am

Quote:Quote:The author did this reader no service and to say that the DC freeedom of speech under the "Bill of Rights" is violated because radio is still not playing their music is an absolute biased opinion by definition of an impartial judgement.I think a closer reading of the article will reveal that is NOT what the author said although one would expect at least some people to read that into it. Personally, what I read into it was that her rights were not RESPECTED by an influencial proportion of the listening public. So be it. Also personally and considering exactly what it was she said, I find that in itself speaks volumes for the recent state-of-affairs in the USA. Again, so be it.And who says her opinion has to be respected? What don't you understand about my argument. The Bill Of Rights, which the author used does not entitle anyone to respect of opinion.If you read the article I linked to and had the author read before writing his view the DC side of this debate would be moot.Again not even the subject here but most of us only remember the Bush comments, read what she said about the country music fans and tell me Country Radio should play the Chicks?

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Re: Kenny Kerner and the Dixie Chicks

Post by bitwhys » Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:19 am

If someone said their opinion has to be respected it certainly wasn't me. I get your point. The Free Market(pwb) has spoken. Like I already said, the nature of the reaction clearly shows it has done so with volume. So be it.btw, death threats are NOT protect by the Bill of Rights. just so you know.
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Re: Kenny Kerner and the Dixie Chicks

Post by hitwriter » Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:24 am

Quote:If someone said their opinion has to be respected it certainly wasn't me. I get your point. The Free Market(pwb) has spoken. Like I already said, the nature of the reaction clearly shows it has done so with volume. So be it.btw, death threats are NOT protect by the Bill of Rights. just so you know.I'm not sure where that line came from but I will assume you meant to put a smiley after that last statement?

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Re: Kenny Kerner and the Dixie Chicks

Post by bitwhys » Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:32 am

it has to do with being sick of catering to "redneck hicks". its ironic that blogger of yours takes exception to the feeling being mutual.
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Re: Kenny Kerner and the Dixie Chicks

Post by hitwriter » Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:58 am

Quote:it has to do with being sick of catering to "redneck hicks". its ironic that blogger of yours takes exception to the feeling being mutual.I'll give you the irony in that if you are refering to the link...However I would expect to be subjected to opinion of any nature or content in a blog, I do not however expect to be subjected to political opinion in my TAXI membership, being what it is.Which again (to those of us just joining us) was simply my complaint to begin with. Personal opinions on the DC or any other matter non related to my future success through TAXI, published by TAXI shall be ignored.My thanks to all who contributed to this debate, regardless of person opinion!I shall now retire to my studio where I belong unless anyone should have a direct question for me or should Mr. Kerner care to contribute to this thread.

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Re: Kenny Kerner and the Dixie Chicks

Post by drew » Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:10 am

Copied from the Yahoo home page:NEW YORK (Hollywood Reporter) - The politically charged documentary "Dixie Chicks: Shut Up and Sing" has been picked up for worldwide distribution by the Weinstein Co.A release is tentatively scheduled for the fall, possibly right before the November elections.
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Re: Kenny Kerner and the Dixie Chicks

Post by bitwhys » Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:28 am

Quote:Copied from the Yahoo home page:NEW YORK (Hollywood Reporter) - The politically charged documentary "Dixie Chicks: Shut Up and Sing" has been picked up for worldwide distribution by the Weinstein Co.A release is tentatively scheduled for the fall, possibly right before the November elections.yesI caught the contrast between the common myth and the marketing reality Kerner was referring to as well. Album opened #1 on the Billboard Country chart. No doubt this round of dollars might be smaller overall but have a special value to them nonetheless.heh. the elections. that oughta help round up the nutters.
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