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Re: Trap Investigative / Urban Dramedy Cue (less repetitive)

Post by CTWF » Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:30 pm

ttully wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:21 pm
Hey Tom,

Yes...it's getting better.... I like the 808..that's more like it !!!

The main thing that bothers me is the drum track.....
It is a bit repetitious and some time....or maybe all the time it should be half time....with the snare on 3 not always on 2 and 4.


Keep going!!!

Tim
Hey Tim, thanks for the encouragement. :) The percussion track is pretty directly from my Yamaha synth, so, yes, this the next big thing to change/consider. I think I will also do some effects on the marimba, but only sometimes. Another thing I wonder is if it starts to become too busy for an urban cue. Tom

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Re: Trap Investigative / Urban Dramedy Cue (sustained 808)

Post by CTWF » Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:41 pm

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Audacity? :lol:

Reaper is beating ProTools already. Just because Reaper's license costs a fraction of PT dont let that fool U. ;)

PT is just the standard DAW adopted and most advertised in the business. But by no means, it's the daw needed to have a professional job done. The newcomers in home studio should be aware of that.
Good to know that this seems to be an opinion (Reaper vs. ProTools) some people have on here, since ProTools gets mentioned a lot as a standard, even on Taxi TV.

Audacity... is my camping stove in CosmicDolphin's image of my situation. MuseScore is the frying pan, and my Yamaha synth maybe a banged up spoon. Not sure what the butter is. It may be missing, that is why the eggs burn, as in RETURN. :lol: :roll:

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Re: Urban Dramedy Investigative Cue (IMPROVED!?)

Post by CTWF » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:20 am

ResonantTone wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:30 pm
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ttully wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:56 pm
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cosmicdolphin wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:25 pm
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You guys have worn me out. Downloading Cakewalk as we are speaking. Will try to change the percussion using Cakewalk.

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Re: Trap Investigative / Urban Dramedy Cue (downloading Cakewalk)

Post by ttully » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:37 am

Good!!!!

You should be able to learn this in no time....piece of Cake (walk)…..!!!

ACTUALLY...

It takes time to figure it all out!
But you Will figure it all out!!!

My tracks (in Protools) for about the first year....were awful... (I must be a slow learner... :shock: )
But of course...that does not mean yours will be bad.....


Now get going!

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Re: Urban Dramedy Investigative Cue (IMPROVED!?)

Post by cosmicdolphin » Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:34 am

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Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:23 pm
Hi CosmicDolphin - I understand your perspective. But in your restaurant example, I am the guy who is new and does not quite know how to fry an egg yet. And I will have to stay a hobby chef anyway.
Well..to keep the analogy going.... hobby chefs don't run restaurants, they make food for themselves of families to enjoy. You sir have signed up to a course for a non trivial amount of $$ ( at least not to me ) to teach you to run your own restaurant and get paid for the meals you make.
CTWF wrote:
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So, a big kitchen is of no use at the time being.
Not true !
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In Taxi terms, my returns don't say " you did a great job, but your production is not up to date", it says more that I stylistically missed the listing. So, that is problem no. 1, to first get the music style right.
Exactly ..and a big part of the reason is you can't employ the techniques required for they style with your current setup. It's like doing the run your own restaurant course with only a microwave..you can't even follow the recipes even if someone gave it to you.

But if chef Ramsay comes along like he does on TV and gives you a shiny new kitchen ( or you download Cakewalk or Reaper ) ..then you still gotta learn how to cook. But now you're not limited to zapping stuff in a microwave..now you can try all recipes you could never try before...sure you will still make mistakes and it's a long learning curve but at least now you got a chance to get cooking properly.
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Let's say you like my draft track that this thread is about, you think it is a fit for the listing, but you think the reason it will be returned is 100% about my production because I did not use the right VIs and plugins. Then, yes, time to get onto the DAW. And, before summer, I want to do it anyways, but my concern is that I might just spend a lot of time on the DAW to produce stylistic misfits...
Produciton & style go hand in hand ..what is the 'style ' of modern EDM..it's loud, it pumps, it has a strong kick on every quarter note ( which is sidechained to duck other mix elements )..you could equally say the 'style' is informed by the 'production' techniques employed.

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Re: Urban Dramedy Investigative Cue (IMPROVED!?)

Post by cosmicdolphin » Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:39 am

CTWF wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:20 am
You guys have worn me out. Downloading Cakewalk as we are speaking. Will try to change the percussion using Cakewalk.
Halleujah ! That's excellent news, you have a lot to learn but you can learn it. Eventually your souffles will be rising with the best of them ;)

Loads of videos that will help but this is a good starter..if you head to the Cakewalk forum there's a PDF manual if you would like one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PVxIqeDZ7U

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Re: Urban Dramedy Investigative Cue (IMPROVED!?)

Post by CTWF » Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:26 am

ttully wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:37 am
My tracks (in Protools) for about the first year....were awful... (I must be a slow learner... :shock: )
Now that I looked at it (Cakewalk), it is clear this will take months/years. I just got my marimba MIDI played by some Cakewalk piano, but I have generally no clue how anything works... Maybe the percussion is still too ambitious at this stage with a 2-week deadline.
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Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:39 am
Halleujah ! That's excellent news, you have a lot to learn but you can learn it. Eventually your souffles will be rising with the best of them ;)

Loads of videos that will help but this is a good starter..if you head to the Cakewalk forum there's a PDF manual if you would like one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PVxIqeDZ7U
Thanks for the link, I think I will have to learn a LOT. At least the thing is running now.
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Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:34 am
Exactly ..and a big part of the reason is you can't employ the techniques required for they style with your current setup. It's like doing the run your own restaurant course with only a microwave..you can't even follow the recipes even if someone gave it to you.
[...]
Produciton & style go hand in hand ..what is the 'style ' of modern EDM..it's loud, it pumps, it has a strong kick on every quarter note ( which is sidechained to duck other mix elements )..you could equally say the 'style' is informed by the 'production' techniques employed.
I get that part of the equation. To an extent I am lacking the tools for what I would like to do musically, and I guess I know it. Tom

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Re: Urban Dramedy Investigative Cue (IMPROVED!?)

Post by cosmicdolphin » Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:43 am

CTWF wrote:
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I get that part of the equation. To an extent I am lacking the tools for what I would like to do musically, and I guess I know it. Tom
Well you made a step or two in the right direction today..keep going

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Re: Trap Investigative / Urban Dramedy Cue (downloading Cakewalk)

Post by ResonantTone » Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:58 am

Way to bite the bullet Tom! I’ll take some learning, but you got this.

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Re: Trap Investigative / Urban Dramedy Cue (downloading Cakewalk)

Post by CTWF » Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:16 pm

ResonantTone wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:58 am
Way to bite the bullet Tom! I’ll take some learning, but you got this.

Andrew
Hi Andrew - thanks for encouraging me. I guess I will "play around" with it more and more over the next few weeks. For the listing that this thread is about it won't be enough time, now that I see how complicated the whole thing looks... Tom

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