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What makes a good hook?
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2023 2:17 pm
by Gillihan
I would like everyone's perspective on this... if possible.
We all know there are different kinds of hooks. The repeat the same word over and over in the chorus.. the repetitive kind. the hook said at the end of each ending line of the verse. alternating the hook line and various lines in the chorus. but what is your favorite hook style and why? looking for new insight on creating . Maybe we can bounce some new ideas around in here. GBYA!

Re: What makes a good hook?
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:46 pm
by melodymessiah
A good hook is something that the music journalists and snobs loves to hate

Re: What makes a good hook?
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:13 am
by Casey H
It's one of those "you know it when you hear it things". In
MOST cases, it's the hook lyric line (usu. the contains the title) repeated at the beginning or end of the chorus with a musical phrase. When you can't get it out of your head, it works. For example, "Flowers" by Miley Cyrus. It's hard not to keep hearing "I can buy myself flowers" in your head.

Casey
Re: What makes a good hook?
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:45 am
by AlanHall
Casey H wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:13 am
When you can't get it out of your head, it works. For example, "Flowers" by Miley Cyrus. It's hard not to keep hearing "I can buy myself flowers" in your head.
Don't make me go listen to the song to hear what you're talking about. I'd be... er... 'hooked'

Re: What makes a good hook?
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 8:29 am
by cosmicdolphin
My favorite is Peter Hook
Re: What makes a good hook?
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 8:42 am
by Gillihan
Casey H wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:13 am
It's one of those "you know it when you hear it things". In
MOST cases, it's the hook lyric line (usu. the contains the title) repeated at the beginning or end of the chorus with a musical phrase. When you can't get it out of your head, it works. For example, "Flowers" by Miley Cyrus. It's hard not to keep hearing "I can buy myself flowers" in your head.

Casey
you mean her song that is like matchbox 20's " I don't wanna be lonely" ? LOL

Yes, that is very catchy . catchy and familiar. That always seems to make a good hook.

Re: What makes a good hook?
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:13 am
by Casey H
cosmicdolphin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 8:29 am
My favorite is Peter Hook
I like Captain Hook, myself.

Re: What makes a good hook?
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:17 am
by Casey H
Gillihan wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 8:42 am
Casey H wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:13 am
It's one of those "you know it when you hear it things". In
MOST cases, it's the hook lyric line (usu. the contains the title) repeated at the beginning or end of the chorus with a musical phrase. When you can't get it out of your head, it works. For example, "Flowers" by Miley Cyrus. It's hard not to keep hearing "I can buy myself flowers" in your head.

Casey
you mean her song that is like matchbox 20's " I don't wanna be lonely" ? LOL

Yes, that is very catchy . catchy and familiar. That always seems to make a good hook.
Well there is that "borrowing" thing. Actually "Flowers" is totally stolen from Bruno Mars' "When I Was Your Man".

Re: What makes a good hook?
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:21 am
by Gillihan
Casey H wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:17 am
Gillihan wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 8:42 am
Casey H wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:13 am
It's one of those "you know it when you hear it things". In
MOST cases, it's the hook lyric line (usu. the contains the title) repeated at the beginning or end of the chorus with a musical phrase. When you can't get it out of your head, it works. For example, "Flowers" by Miley Cyrus. It's hard not to keep hearing "I can buy myself flowers" in your head.

Casey
you mean her song that is like matchbox 20's " I don't wanna be lonely" ? LOL

Yes, that is very catchy . catchy and familiar. That always seems to make a good hook.
Well there is that "borrowing" thing. Actually "Flowers" is totally stolen from Bruno Mars' "When I Was Your Man".
I am learning It's not what ya borrow, it's who borrows it. LOL
Re: What makes a good hook?
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:23 am
by Gillihan
Casey H wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:13 am
cosmicdolphin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 8:29 am
My favorite is Peter Hook
I like Captain Hook, myself.
I kinda like Dr. Hook every once in a while.
