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More food for thought...
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2025 2:59 pm
by eeoo
How do publishers know that what they're being sent from their composers is not AI? Do they simply take our word for it? And another somewhat related question especially for those of you who specialize in electronic genres (hip hop, chill, edm, pop etc), at this point how does a listener know whether or not it's AI they are listening to?
It's getting weird out there...
Re: More food for thought...
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2025 3:50 pm
by Casey H
eeoo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 09, 2025 2:59 pm
How do publishers know that what they're being sent from their composers is not AI? Do they simply take our word for it? And another somewhat related question especially for those of you who specialize in electronic genres (hip hop, chill, edm, pop etc), at this point how does a listener know whether or not it's AI they are listening to?
They use AI to check if the track is AI.
Casey
Re: More food for thought...
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2025 4:15 pm
by eeoo
Casey you're closing in on 15,000 posts, holy cow!
Re: More food for thought...
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2025 6:18 pm
by RealPickle
eeoo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 09, 2025 4:15 pm
Casey you're closing in on 15,000 posts, holy cow!
Which really raises the question: How can we be sure Casey isn't AI?
Re: More food for thought...
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2025 6:20 am
by eandersonmusic
Re: More food for thought...
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2025 7:02 am
by Casey H
In all seriousness, there is AI software that can listen to a song and rate how likely it is to be AI. It looks for word patterns, musical characteristics, etc. You can find websites out there on which you can upload an mp3 and get a "Likely AI" rating. Some libraries are using these methods.
I had a song rejected at first by a library I've worked with for many years. They said they detected it as likely AI. I had to go back and explain it was all original, the people on the track, etc. and get them to reverse the rejection.
Casey
Re: More food for thought...
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2025 7:02 am
by Casey H
RealPickle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 09, 2025 6:18 pm
eeoo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 09, 2025 4:15 pm
Casey you're closing in on 15,000 posts, holy cow!
Which really raises the question: How can we be sure Casey isn't AI?
Only a bot could make THAT many posts!!
Re: More food for thought...
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:29 am
by eeoo
Casey H wrote: ↑Wed Sep 10, 2025 7:02 am
RealPickle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 09, 2025 6:18 pm
eeoo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 09, 2025 4:15 pm
Casey you're closing in on 15,000 posts, holy cow!
Which really raises the question: How can we be sure Casey isn't AI?
Only a bot could make THAT many posts!!
That's why it takes so long for pages to load!
Re: More food for thought...
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:32 am
by eeoo
Casey H wrote: ↑Wed Sep 10, 2025 7:02 am
In all seriousness, there is AI software that can listen to a song and rate how likely it is to be AI. It looks for word patterns, musical characteristics, etc. You can find websites out there on which you can upload an mp3 and get a "Likely AI" rating. Some libraries are using these methods.
I had a song rejected at first by a library I've worked with for many years. They said they detected it as likely AI. I had to go back and explain it was all original, the people on the track, etc. and get them to reverse the rejection.
Casey
I assume that was for a vocal song? I wonder how it does detecting some thing like an EDM instrumental cue that's using all virtual instruments?
Re: More food for thought...
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:53 am
by Casey H
eeoo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:32 am
I assume that was for a vocal song? I wonder how it does detecting some thing like an EDM instrumental cue that's using all virtual instruments?
I'm guessing there are audio elements/patterns in even an instrumental track that are more likely to AI generated. I can't say I know enough about it to be sure. A lot of websites out there to test for AI if you Google about this. Here is one:
https://www.submithub.com/ai-song-checker
Obviously, I can't say how accurate those sites are. You *could* generate an instrumental track with Suno, test it, and the upload one of your own and compare the results. But probably not worth your time.
Casey
