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ASCAP/BMI payments for Jingles?
Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 4:29 am
by davewalton
Hi,This isn't my line of music, but a friend was asking if the jingle songwriters get royalty payments for national commercials. The question came as a result of a recent listing where the Captain Morgan Rum people are looking for a new jingle.As an example, do the songwriters of "Woo Hoo" get royalties from all the airplay that comes from the Vonage commercials?Thanks,Dave
Re: ASCAP/BMI payments for Jingles?
Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 6:09 am
by mani
Yes they do, unless it's a work for hire. The Vonage commercial is a Japanese punk band as far as I remember. Can't think of the name but they get paid every time you hear that song. They must be rolling in it by now!
Re: ASCAP/BMI payments for Jingles?
Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 6:14 am
by matto
Not really my line of work either, but...the answer is yes...although exactly how you get paid and for what varies from PRO to PRO. E.g. it's possible you'd get paid for major networks only (and not for local or cable), or only for "feature performances" (where the music is not covered by dialog for a certain portion of the jingle, or there is a vocal), and some PRO's will pay according to statistical surveys, others according to what is being reported to them by the networks.Before contemplating getting into this side of the business you should contact your PRO and find out the specifics from them.matto
Re: ASCAP/BMI payments for Jingles?
Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 6:31 am
by davewalton
Quote:Before contemplating getting into this side of the business you should contact your PRO and find out the specifics from them.mattoThanks to Matto and Mani. I have no desire to pursue this kind of thing but I'll pass the info along to my songwriter friends who are were wondering about this.I'll have to admit that privately I'd like like to be receiving "Woo Hoo" royalties but I'd never admit publicly to writing such a song.
Re: ASCAP/BMI payments for Jingles?
Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 11:58 am
by edteja
Dave,With that kind of money, you could afford to hire someone and pretend (publicly) he wrote it. Or claim to be a Japanese punk band.]Hey with that money, sky is the limit.
Re: ASCAP/BMI payments for Jingles?
Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 12:23 pm
by mani
I think Woo Hoo is quite brilliant meself. To take that standard classic blues progression and make it so totally your own in such a unique way is genius IMO. I know there was a thread on here a while back where people were slagging it off and saying it sounds crap but I love the whole sound and vibe of it too.
Re: ASCAP/BMI payments for Jingles?
Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 6:34 pm
by nomiyah
I asked ASCAP about this very thing. I placed a few songs with a guy who produced commercials for local cable, a chimney sweep ad, a carpet cleaner, etc. I never got any royalties so I called ASCAP. They told me that it all depends if the station reports the usage and apparently they don't. I'm sure things are different on national ads, as long as they aren't all drunk on rum.
Re: ASCAP/BMI payments for Jingles?
Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 9:23 pm
by zink
Quote:Can't think of the name but they get paid every time you hear that song. They must be rolling in it by now!I think it's the "5 6 7 8s" from Kill Bill fame
Re: ASCAP/BMI payments for Jingles?
Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 3:00 am
by mani
That's right! Tarantino's movies might be awful these days but he's stiil got great taste in music. He used some of the tracks from those old 'Vampyros Lesbos' movies a while back in something or other. Great stuff!
Re: ASCAP/BMI payments for Jingles?
Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 10:45 am
by mani
Hey Dave!!! I just got forwarded for that Captain Morgan listing! The company is huge! I'm so psyched!!!!!!