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It is funny that Suno tells you not to commercially use your AI songs generated under their free license. This contradicts the legal situation in the U.S., because there is no copyright protection for pure AI creations - they are public domain.

Generally, if I create a cover of ANY AI song, then I own all rights in that cover just how I would do with a cover of a Beethoven composition. So, there is no legal problem for libraries. But it needs to be clear that it is the cover of a PD song.

Thoughts?

I guess I have to correct myself: I cannot use a perfect copy of a Suno AI song (i.e. the downloaded file) if they do not want me to do that because they own the right to the master. But I can create as many covers as I want and I can do with them whatever I want - except for copyrighting them.

Correct?

Hijacking the thread a tad but just thinking about how Suno type entities might police/enforce their rights going forward.

Let's say that they use a more advanced version of Tunesat to detect usages and have a means to enforce.

A couple of possible scenarios come to mind

1. Let the AI rip and try to corner musical spaces with a monte carlo approach building an immense catalogue to challenge occurances of plagiarism - very unlikely to be able to legal enforce this but who knows.

2. Turns out that copyright only exists for creations from human (users)/AI interactions which implicitly concedes a share of the copyright with the human user.

Not a legal argument more a mathematical one but suspect #2 is more likely.

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Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:11 pm

1. Let the AI rip and try to corner musical spaces with a monte carlo approach building an immense catalogue to challenge occurances of plagiarism - very unlikely to be able to legal enforce this but who knows.

Like throwing stones while sitting in a glass house ... The question is how many songs they churn out a day. A million? This would be quite a Tunesat account, indeed.

I think a danger for Suno and such might be that they might go the way of the Uberduck: Start very impressively and get sued/restricted into a tiny shadow of their former self.

Sent you a PM regarding AI songs.