kclements wrote:Oh, I forgot about Ian's stuff. It's great. Thanks for reminding my Andy.
Andy, I think you also use the UAD Stuff no? Have you tried the T-Racks stuff to compare? Most of this stuff comes down to the user and all of these programs will all give you great results once you learn how to use them , and more importantly, why to use them.
kc
well I went nuts with the plugins over the last 6 years or so. There were a lot of specials and sales on various things, so I ended up a hodgepodge of T-racks, UAD, PSP, Waves etc. I never buy anything that isn't on sale. You don't have to these days. And places like audiodeluxe.com also sell stuff for 10-15% less than any advertised price unless something is on a fire sale from a manufacturer anyways.
Like Waves, UAD and T-racks all have a pultec. They are all a little different. They can all do the job if you want that particular sound and effect. Do they sound like the hardware? I don't know. All the hardware units sound different from each other anyways.
I found that there were cool things about every different plugin, and some things that weren't so cool, for the way I work anyways. Limiters all sound a little different - some are clean (L2, UAD precision limiter, PSP Xenon), some have more of a dirty character which sounds find on more aggressive tracks (Maxim, PSP Vintage Warmer, UAD Precision Maximizer) and some are capable of a range of colours (L316, Slate FGX, T-racks brickwall limiter). They also tend to modify the stereo image and front back space of your mix slightly. I found that compared to some limiters, the UAD precision Limiter tended to make the drums sound slightly more forward.
Unfortunately the FGX is also still 32 bit, so its not much of a help for PT 11 or Logic X unless you host it in the Vienna Ensemble Pro.
Some of the plugins could be considered "classics" at this point (IMO anyways

) and if you see them for way cheap, you can't really go wrong. Like the Waves L2 - its often on special for $49 or even less. I would say that's a quality buy at this point as it lets you get things really loud and pretty clean, it has simple controls, its not multi-band either which is less complicated, and since Waves discarded the iLok for their latest versions its less of a headache.
I would say that any of these brands and packages you can probably see great results with. Some of it relates to whether you like an "all-in-one" package or like to put select individual plugins on your master. I like individual plugs, but I have a great range of different individuals to use.
But you also have to assume it will take a while to learn whats good and what's less good about every plugin. it will take perhaps hundreds of mixes. or at least that's my experience
Hope that perspective helps.
Like I said above, the standard plugins in every DAW usually do a pretty great job. But in my case, I had to try a bunch of other stuff and see for myself what was special about it, while developing sufficient ears and technique to actually use the free stuff effectively. Funny huh?
or in short - I just took 20,000 words to say the same thing that Kayle said more succinctly above.