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Calliope

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:27 am
by stansongman
I am producing some circus calliope music for listing # Y181212CA. I modeled a calliope with Logic Pro Sculpture. If anyone wants to give a listen and feedback on the sound, here's a track I recorded with it: https://soundcloud.com/stansongman/stro ... ay/s-zVOpg. Here's a dropbox link to the Sculpture setting for it, if you want to play around with it: https://www.dropbox.com/s/s01ui23439bn9 ... e.pst?dl=0 (You put the Calliope.pst file in this folder: /Users/YOURNAME/Music/Audio Music Apps/Plug-In Settings/Sculpture)

I think it's close, but I've spent too much time on it to be objective. One thing I noticed from listening to a bunch of calliope music on YouTube, is that the wind sound on a calliope doesn't seem to change "pitch" , but this model does somewhat. I don't see a way to do that with Sculpture, but what I like about the model is that it has a wonkiness that to me sounds pretty realistic for an old steam machine. Anyways, feel free to use the plugin, and any feedback would be appreciated!

Oh, and if you are handy and a traditionalist, the December 1982 issue of Popular Mechanics has plans to make your own: http://books.google.com/books?id=-9kDAA ... cs&f=false

BTW I didn't really know where to post this, but I like to share new patches/etc. with the TAXI community for their use. I am really enjoying producing for this listing, how can you not be happy when you're playing circus music on a calliope? :D

Re: Calliope

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:06 am
by Unstar
Cool track. Very fun and circusy sounding :) Thanks for the link to that patch. I will play with it. I don't think I've ever tried to model anything in Logic Pro X. Always appreciate when you add links or details regarding stuff. Cheers and good luck.

Re: Calliope

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:57 am
by stansongman
So, after some fooling around, the easiest solution is to create another track with the ES2 plugin, which provides the steam. Here's the plugin setting for it: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6i4tr4zo3vw6d ... m.pst?dl=0 . If you mix a little in alongside the calliope track (you have to duplicate the midi to the ES2 track as well), I think it's much closer. I was hoping for a single plugin to handle it all, but this seems to work. Here's the track with the addition of the steam noise: https://soundcloud.com/stansongman/stro ... ay/s-V0ec2

Re: Calliope

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:52 am
by Unstar
That updated track definitely sounds a lot closer. Pretty slick on your part. Thanks for sharing! I'm going to try that combination of elements. Cheers and good luck.

-Vic

Re: Calliope

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:22 am
by Unstar
Hey Stan, I was able to open the Callope.pst file in Sculpture. However, I'm not able to open the steam.pst because it's greyed out in the folder when trying to load it. Should the filesize only be 1 KB?

Here's what it looks like when I try to Load from Sculpture. Appreciate any help. Thanks!

Re: Calliope

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:35 am
by CTWF
Hi Stan, cool track & cool calliope, Now I wonder if I wasted $5 submitting this one. It seems a little like the hand-cranked small sister of yours. By the way, I do think the steam/air is pitched (e.g. in the first reference), but it is not perfect or simple. I tried to recreate this (very subtle), not sure I succeeded. Tom


Re: Calliope

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:45 pm
by mojobone
Dang that's really cool; sounds authentic ti these ears. I did however, notice some distortion on the last chord. Perhaps it's an artifact of compression, either audio or data? Likely not a dealbreaker, in context, just noticeable.

Re: Calliope

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:34 pm
by nicotina
Nice job! I think that's a better calliope then I came up with . I blended the ocarina and japanese flute sounds on my keyboard, and then detuned it slightly with a plugin in Reaper and came out with something close. But yours has more "steam". You nailed the ragtimey style of calliope tunes too. As a keyboard player, you've gotta love when they ask for something like that!

Vince

Re: Calliope

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:08 am
by mojobone
CTWF wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:35 am
Hi Stan, cool track & cool calliope, Now I wonder if I wasted $5 submitting this one. It seems a little like the hand-cranked small sister of yours. By the way, I do think the steam/air is pitched (e.g. in the first reference), but it is not perfect or simple. I tried to recreate this (very subtle), not sure I succeeded. Tom


This one's missing the whistle-ey pitched and non-pitched artifacts (squeaks, compressor noise) of a complex piece of machinery, and could also use a touch more space around it.