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Submixes and STEM - Newbie questions

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 12:49 pm
by JulesAntoineEscande
Hi

For my first deal, the company expect me to send them "At least 2 alternative/sub mixes as well as accompanying stems of the master track(s)".

2 questions here :
1. Do the STEMS have to be mastered ?
2. What do they mean by 2 alternative/sub mixes? Any tips to give me about that? (It is for a HipHop prod.)

Thank you for your support !
Jules-Antoine

Re: Submixes and STEM - Newbie questions

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 1:19 pm
by melodea
Mastered Full Mix/(Same Mastering settings) Bed without leads/(Same Mastering settings) Bass & Drums (including percussions) only. Keep in mind that all I mean ALL the stems start and end at the excact same place (accurate to the millisecond). My test is to put all my mixes in one session on different tracks startin at the same time. You should be able now while it’s playing to switch from one track to the other without any time and volume glitch. It should sound like you just mute the leads or the non percussive instruments while it’s playing.

Re: Submixes and STEM - Newbie questions

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 2:54 am
by JulesAntoineEscande
melodea wrote:
Sat May 14, 2022 1:19 pm
Mastered Full Mix/(Same Mastering settings) Bed without leads/(Same Mastering settings) Bass & Drums (including percussions) only. Keep in mind that all I mean ALL the stems start and end at the excact same place (accurate to the millisecond). My test is to put all my mixes in one session on different tracks startin at the same time. You should be able now while it’s playing to switch from one track to the other without any time and volume glitch. It should sound like you just mute the leads or the non percussive instruments while it’s playing.
Thank you for your answer, melodea !

Re: Submixes and STEM - Newbie questions

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 6:59 am
by Casey H
If I read right, they may be asking for 2 different things. One is some alt mixes as melodea described correctly. The other is all the stems from the full mix. Stems and alt mixes are not the same thing though the terms are often mistakenly used interchangeably.

Requirements for stems vary from library to library. But this is beyond my area of expertise so hopefully someone with experience at this will chime in.

Congrats again!
:D Casey

Re: Submixes and STEM - Newbie questions

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 8:02 am
by JulesAntoineEscande
Casey H wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 6:59 am
If I read right, they may be asking for 2 different things. One is some alt mixes as melodea described correctly. The other is all the stems from the full mix. Stems and alt mixes are not the same thing though the terms are often mistakenly used interchangeably.

Requirements for stems vary from library to library. But this is beyond my area of expertise so hopefully someone with experience at this will chime in.

Congrats again!
:D Casey
Thanks for your answer. I asked them directly what they were expecting... I'll let you know !

Re: Submixes and STEM - Newbie questions

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 8:25 am
by Casey H
JulesAntoineEscande wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 8:02 am
Casey H wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 6:59 am
If I read right, they may be asking for 2 different things. One is some alt mixes as melodea described correctly. The other is all the stems from the full mix. Stems and alt mixes are not the same thing though the terms are often mistakenly used interchangeably.

Requirements for stems vary from library to library. But this is beyond my area of expertise so hopefully someone with experience at this will chime in.

Congrats again!
:D Casey
Thanks for your answer. I asked them directly what they were expecting... I'll let you know !
Yes, that is always the best thing to do!