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Hi gang,
I see a lot of the tracks that are put out on here have the "salami WAV" form. Is this a Library music thing? I personally don't do this and all the youtube videos I watch of mixing mastering engineers always talk about "transient" and are against this. Is this pop,EDM thing? I have been at this for a long time mostly recording audio(guitars) but I am starting to doubt myself. I am assuming the LUFS is at 8-9 as I hear it through my speakers it is pretty loud.

A lthough the tracks sound great but just curious what you guys think about this.

thanks.

gitanosoy wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:32 pm

Hi gang,
I see a lot of the tracks that are put out on here have the "salami WAV" form. Is this a Library music thing? I personally don't do this and all the youtube videos I watch of mixing mastering engineers always talk about "transient" and are against this. Is this pop,EDM thing? I have been at this for a long time mostly recording audio(guitars) but I am starting to doubt myself. I am assuming the LUFS is at 8-9 as I hear it through my speakers it is pretty loud.

A lthough the tracks sound great but just curious what you guys think about this.

thanks.

an observation from The Peanut Gallery - if a track is for film/TV, and likely to be placed under dialog - makes sense that a screener/supe will LOOK at the graphic to see how the piece
builds and has edit points. If it's a radio cut - then 'make it loud' is more likely the way to go, and not so important what the graphic looks like.
2 cents. HTH.
(if that addresses the QUESTION you're asking).

funsongs wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:29 pm

gitanosoy wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:32 pm

Hi gang,
I see a lot of the tracks that are put out on here have the "salami WAV" form. Is this a Library music thing? I personally don't do this and all the youtube videos I watch of mixing mastering engineers always talk about "transient" and are against this. Is this pop,EDM thing? I have been at this for a long time mostly recording audio(guitars) but I am starting to doubt myself. I am assuming the LUFS is at 8-9 as I hear it through my speakers it is pretty loud.

A lthough the tracks sound great but just curious what you guys think about this.

thanks.

an observation from The Peanut Gallery - if a track is for film/TV, and likely to be placed under dialog - makes sense that a screener/supe will LOOK at the graphic to see how the piece
builds and has edit points. If it's a radio cut - then 'make it loud' is more likely the way to go, and not so important what the graphic looks like.
2 cents. HTH.
(if that addresses the QUESTION you're asking).

Hi Peter,
Yes for library music the ones that the members post here either a fwd or peer/peer or where ever, if the screener is looking for a build there there is none, it is a salami, I know that build ups are in certain genres but I am guessing not in EDM,pop,hio-hop...e,t,c.

I can easily master likes this if needed or should be, just want to know and again just for submitting for music Library film/tv.

Thanks for the reply.

For what it's worth - I've also heard that solid wave-form/volume graphic called "The Stick Of Butter" signature;
meaning - everything has been compressed for maximum volume.
I can understand why an EDM track might look like that.

If a banjo-solo track looked like that - it might scare a few folks right off of the front porch.

Yeah I heard the Salami reference from CLA. I like the "stick of butter " too.

I know what you mean and have heard it described many ways.
i.e like a roller painting a rectangle strip in black paint - tube of toothpaste etc.

My observation is the eyes and the ears don't always agree - I have seen block rectangular strip wave forms that sound dynamic and visibly more dynamic wave forms sounding over compressed (probably pumping)

Also those pics of the waveform are arbitrary - the programmer is averaging levels over some time interval and drawing a big old line that defines maybe a second or more of a track.

But I can't help but be influenced by it either.