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Broadcast quality?...yes/no...Got an answer

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:08 am
by rld
Hey folks,I recently got a return for this with a checkmark in the "not broadcast quality/recording" box.I'd like some opinions on this as I'm pretty sure it meets the criteria...I'm not saying it rivals a major release or anything, but it is broadcast quality IMO.Caught in a Trapwhat do you think?CAUTION: Its guitar rock so it starts off loud.Thanks. ****UPDATE****I'm updating this as I appreciate everyone's comments and thought you might be interested.I emailed Robin asking for a clarification...this is the meat of the reply....The screener's concern has to do with the drums.He felt that the overall feel of the drum track was too programmed, that it could be humanized more...Needless to say I don't agree with that assessment, and I don't think anyone commenting on this thread thought the drums were "too programmed".In fact Big Blue Barry, who is a drummer said,"REALLY good job of programming the drums" So there ya go...I got an answer...not the one I expected, but such is life.

Re: Broadcast quality?...yes/no

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:27 am
by davekershaw
Quote:what do you think? Welcome to the club!Sounds good to me.Tasty guitar!Dave.

Re: Broadcast quality?...yes/no

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:02 am
by rld
Thanks guys...I'm 100% sure this is broadcast quality, but sometimes you just like to bounce it off others.I certainly understand that the song may not be right for the listing, and I guess the screener could have checked the wrong box, but since that's the only feedback we get on theses listings, that's a pretty serious error if we are expected to make changes from the feedback.Barry,Garth Brooks... I totally get what you're saying there, but again that would make it not right for the listing, instead of "not broadcast quality."

Re: Broadcast quality?...yes/no

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:21 pm
by rld
Hi Viki,The drums were put together with a drum VSTi ala Addictive Drummer or EZ Drummer (I can't remember which).They are in sync all the way through, IMO, but maybe you should tell me where you think they are not. The solo is followed by a section where I wanted an "a capella" feel...to kind of change things up a bit.You said "it seems just a little out of the box", but I'm not sure what that means.This song has been forwarded before, and returned, and interestingly the other return was from the same screener, so maybe he/she hears something that they find objectionable...?I don't know what...but I'd like to find out.

Re: Broadcast quality?...yes/no

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:38 pm
by hummingbird
Mar 5, 2009, 3:21pm, rld wrote:The drums were put together with a drum VSTi ala Addictive Drummer or EZ Drummer (I can't remember which).They are in sync all the way through, IMO, but maybe you should tell me where you think they are not. The solo is followed by a section where I wanted an "a capella" feel...to kind of change things up a bit.You said "it seems just a little out of the box", but I'm not sure what that means.This song has been forwarded before, and returned, and interestingly the other return was from the same screener, so maybe he/she hears something that they find objectionable...?I don't know what...but I'd like to find out. yeah, overall I thought it was pretty good. Somewhere before the bridge something seemed out of sync in drums/rythm for one mo. Just on first pass. The solo/vocal in the bridge seemed to be louder than the rest of the song, but again, just on first pass... listening to try to hear what the screener might have heard. I could be totally out to lunch.

Re: Broadcast quality?...yes/no

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:37 pm
by bigbluebarry
Mar 5, 2009, 12:02pm, rld wrote:Thanks guys...I'm 100% sure this is broadcast quality, but sometimes you just like to bounce it off others.I certainly understand that the song may not be right for the listing, and I guess the screener could have checked the wrong box, but since that's the only feedback we get on theses listings, that's a pretty serious error if we are expected to make changes from the feedback.Barry,Garth Brooks... I totally get what you're saying there, but again that would make it not right for the listing, instead of "not broadcast quality."Oh I totally agree. That's what I was trying to say. I just gave it a listen here on my studio machine and there is no way that this track is not broadcast quality. I think you did a great job on this one. REALLY good job of programming the drums.- Big Blue

Re: Broadcast quality?...yes/no

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:56 pm
by andreh
Kick-ass tune, RLD...love it. The first few notes on the guitar are pretty brash until the other parts come in (perhaps you used a multi-band compressor on the full mix?), which would make this track hard to feature at high volumes. Can't think of anything else not broadcast quality about it, but if I were a music sup. I'd have turned it off after the first 2 seconds. I also noticed some lack of definition before your vocals came in, but not to a show-stopping degree.André

Re: Broadcast quality?...yes/no

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:01 am
by rld
Thanks guys,Sure, there are mix issues that all us bedroom producers have... but I think there is nothing so drastic as to disqualify this from BQ.Andreh mentioned the intro being so brash as to make someone turn it off after 2 seconds...I hope the screeners don't do that, but I don't like being blasted without warning either, so maybe I'll revisit that.I've posted a note in the "screeners shoutout" forum asking for a clarification...will I get one? I hope so.

Re: Broadcast quality?...yes/no

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:59 am
by rld
Hey Warren,Here is a Soundclick link.http://soundclick.com/share?songid=5887030Careful now...it starts off loud.

Re: Broadcast quality?...yes/no

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 7:54 am
by davekershaw
I can't think a loud start would justify a "not broadcast quality" return.Lots of songs just blast in there.This track still sounds fine to me. Maybe it is broadcast quality already, but that one screener is convincing everyone it isn't, and we're looking for a reason that isn't there!The next screener may forward it.Here's hoping!