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Would like your opinions on this please

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:13 am
by mcanty
I am going back into studio on Jan 28 to continue working on this song called "Sorry 'Bout that".I will be doing backing vocals myself and also have some backup singers coming the following day.I would like to know what you guys hear that might set this song off. It sounds a little dull right now in my opinion...........but I have rehearsed with the higher register backing vocals and the song really does shine. It's a cake right now and I need the icing.............http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplaye ... 75508&q=hi

Re: Would like your opinions on this please

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:18 am
by mcanty
Also, keep in mind this is a very raw rough mix. The vocals are intentionally up too loud. The end was left repetitive because i have created a pretty interested backup tune to overlay....Just curious what you guys think. Your feedback has been invaluable and I do appreciate it, even the constructive critcism.

Re: Would like your opinions on this please

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:09 am
by montster
Hi Mark The icing? I know there's something, though not really "missing", but I think you're feeling there's just the next thing to add to take this tune over the top. I'd really like to hear what the new vocal mix will add to the production, yet beyond that.... Because of the "ballad" feel, a short guitar solo with a Santana'esque guitar tone over one of the chorus parts (instead of the vocals; or add it to the arrangement which will require re-tracking which I would imagine you are not interested in doing with this version) and adding the same guitar freely following the melody on the repeated choruses at the end may provide that something to fill the "space" and compliment the mood.Other wise maybe strings at the end? or both....out of the box kind of thinking for the production may be deserving. The strings could be the existing organ I think I heard if it was more prominent in the mix. But I definitely hear a singing guitar ....I like the instrumentation with the piano/ organ feel. The bass is a little "hot" in the mix and the guitar and the organ could come up a little.Post your progress... nice tune Good luck Monty

Re: Would like your opinions on this please

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:13 am
by kurtkreimier
Hello Mark,You have a nice song here with some nicely done lyrics. I am glad to hear you are going to add some higher end backing vocals because to my ears what this song needs is some high end. Some of this may be eq related. It borders on being a little too heavy (muddy) on the 125 to 500 Hz range but I would try to do as much as possible with the mix before making any eq adjustments. Bring up the organ in the mix, especially during the chorus sections. The chorus needs to be bigger and maybe your adding of the high end backing vocals will help. I am also hearing what sounds a little like a steel guitar panned over towards the organ, or perhaps this is the organ. Either way these parts really need to come out. If it is a steel guitar you may want to pan it a little farther away from the organ. Basically I am ditto'ing what Monty had to say and I agree that it is really hard to comment without hearing the backing vocals. One other thing that comes to my mind is that you may want to add a touch of reverb and perhaps some chorus effects to selected parts or all of the mix, once you have the mix where you want it. Just my thoughts. Hope this helps.Kurt

Re: Would like your opinions on this please

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:08 am
by pesmitty
Really like the song. It flows very nicely and the lyrics work very well, I think. You might not like this, but because I am a country guy, I imagined that done in the country genre and loved it--steel guitars coming out loud; booming choruses and harmonies. Also, the title is very country.Perry

Re: Would like your opinions on this please

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:01 am
by steini
I would take it one tone down..

Re: Would like your opinions on this please

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:22 am
by Casey H
Hi MarkVery nice song!! Once again I hear an Elton John/70's vibe which, for me, is great. I like this a lot! Great lyrics too... You are a very talented songwriter.I can't say much about engineering details-- not my area... My thoughts... You have a retro style to your writing and arrangements. That will work well if you want to target film/TV listings asking for sound-alikes from previous decades. There's nothing wrong with that! It's just important to know where you are. There are good opportunities out there. If you want to write for modern artists, you probably have an uphill climb to put out music that sounds more like today's folks. And, if you are targeting country or country-pop, it will be very tough without a new approach. I see you are looking for co-writers which could absolutely help. Great idea! You have a very good voice but you strain to hit some of the high parts. The suggestion to take it down a 1/2 or full step is a good one. Please don't be offended by this but consider hiring another professional vocalist to sing your demos. The right vocalist can cover the range for which you write so well and make your demos REALLY stand out as well as be great film/TV pitches.Really enjoyable,Casey