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Why was this rejected?

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:30 pm
by deantaylor
Hey Everyone,

This one has been rejected by 3 publishers. Is there some mix issue we are not hearing? Some other weakness? Any room for improvement?

I really thought this would get accepted, because we have had 2 similar songs accepted recently (the same vocalist, a similar modern "Elvis" vibe).

https://s.disco.ac/ydecyohrtopk

Thanks,
Dean and Marc

Re: Why was this rejected?

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 7:25 pm
by Casey H
Hey Dean & Marc
We all get those "orphans", ones that none of our go to libraries are interested in. And we'll probably never know why. We do know that it's a very saturated market and libraries are being even more selective than ever. Sometimes it's just because they have enough of the style already. Sometimes the same library that accepted your other similar tracks had a different reviewer for this one.

This song has a cool traveling vibe. I could see it in a scene while people are riding in a car, maybe in a convertible with the top down. I think it's a bit long and repetitive but I don't think that would be a reason for rejection.

Others may have feedback on the mix itself.

Happy Holidays!
Casey

Re: Why was this rejected?

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 8:01 pm
by funsongs
TBH - to use a screener term that was used as a recent return of one of my/our own:
"Not captivating". (Another dreaded "C" word added to the lexicon of NOT 'contemporary' nor 'compelling'.)

In my own words: while it has a good vibe in the tempo; it strikes me as 'too static' -
1) lacking an interesting and memorable melody;
2) I was wondering if it might sound better with a LIVE DRUMMER - for the real-feel - versus such a produced 'jukebox' canned-sounding track.

Meaning to be helpful.
:? 8-)

Re: Why was this rejected?

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2023 4:11 am
by deantaylor
Casey: Thanks. Good points. I hope we can make some improvements and make it 'not an orphan'. We may just try and make it less repetitive.

Peter: Thanks. That is definitely helpful. Listening with your thoughts in mind, I can hear where you are coming from. You may be right about all of that. I think our other 2 similar songs (that got accepted) are 'more compelling' than this one. And you give some actionable things we can try.

Re: Why was this rejected?

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2023 7:03 am
by cowriter
Hey Marc, nice overall vibe but I would emphasize the chorus a little more. Otherwise the song warbles along without much dynamics, also because the vocal melody constantly moves around the E. Try singing a B as harmony in the chorus of "Goods", or add a high D first: Goo(D) ood (B) you'll notice, it works wonders. :D

Best, Andy

Re: Why was this rejected?

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:32 am
by cosmicdolphin
Usually the main reason they are not accepted is because they don't think it's something their clients could use.

Re: Why was this rejected?

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:33 pm
by deantaylor
Andy: Thank you! We will definitely give those harmony ideas a try.

cosmicdolphin: Yes, that might be it. But it also could be because of some weakness/issue in this version, so we want to try and make it better and submit again.

Re: Why was this rejected?

Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2023 12:06 pm
by feaker66
deantaylor wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:30 pm
Hey Everyone,
Is there some mix issue we are not hearing? Some other weakness? Any room for improvement?

Nope, it's good. " great work IMHO? One has to get picky on these. I would like to hear a few "really good" after the "I think it's good" instead of the brass every time. Maybe like bgv tripple singers? I won't mention race :)

The bass really carries this. I wonder if a different bass line in places might give it some flavor or interest unpredictable??

Great singer voice, smooth as silk. Some higher notes sprinkled maybe??

Good vibe this combo makes. carry on

Re: Why was this rejected?

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:33 am
by deantaylor
Paul: Thank you. That's good feedback and we will try a few of those ideas. Others mentioned harmonies and bgvs too.

Re: Why was this rejected?

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 12:51 am
by minoruchan
Hi Dean and Marc,

I listened carefully. In my opinion, I thought it was a good song, but since you want improvements, I'm going to write something harsh. There's too much reverb on the vocals, and the reverb has a modern feel, so I felt it didn't suit the song. I don't think it's good for a song to have retro performances and modern elements, and in the end give the impression that it's neither.
I thought the development was too monotonous. I felt that the build-up was lacking. I think the brass section in the second half could be a little more playful.
When selecting songs, many of the top libraries focus on the development of the songs to keep the audience interested.
You want to create an Elvis atmosphere, but I think the vocals are too calm from beginning to end, making it too much. I think this is probably due to the repeated punch in and out recording.
When a singer sings, the lyrics and the singer's emotions change at various points in the song. If you repeatedly punch in, it becomes a flat version when you try to sing it correctly, and even if that part is a good take, if you listen to it as a whole, it becomes an uninteresting take.

If the singer does not have a special development ability, there are other methods such as adding a doubling to the second verse or adding harmony to the second chorus.

I think that when a song is simply a repetition of three rock chords, how it develops is a very important issue.

Also, regarding which songs the library selects,
No one knows that and everyone has their own likes and dislikes.
It's like the difference between entering a cafe and choosing coffee or orange juice.

Thank you