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Thanks Peter. I know what you mean. You hit the nail on the head with what we've been grappling with. We had some mixes/productions that sounded good, very clean, but they did not sound bizarre enough (to me). We also had a few that went too far and were too jolting/bold for film/TV use, imo. This version hit the sweet spot for us (for now), but it's hard to know for sure. Your opinion and others' opinions will help us to acid test it. We can always tweak and remix if needed.funsongs wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:58 pm2 cents from The Peanut Gallery:
1) It took these ears a bit a listening into the track to 'accept' the clapping/percussion sound/FX as part of the texture,
against the other instrumentation and voice, which are clear and clearly-defined. At first, the FX seemed like a distracting distortion;
BUT - as, the title suggests - if the intent for the track to be a little 'bizarre'; then it works.
Know what I mean?
2) It also reminded me of hearing examples at a Ronan Murphy presentation at the RR a few years back, discussing 'the advent'
of even bass guitar tracks using some distortion in the tone.
If that FX is, therefore, on purpose & by design; then your production sounds spot on.
HTH; other ears may have a different perspective.
Your mileage may vary.
Cool composition for film/TV...?
Thanks Peter. Actually our goal is featured placements. But of course, we'd also love to get under dialog and bedtrack placements too. So really, we just wanna make it the best song possible. But still, your point holds, there is a balance to get just the right amount of bizarreness!funsongs wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:40 amAnytime you're pitching a track that's aimed at getting used as underscore or, more specifically, under dialog -
that's a huge challenge to sound 'bizarre', without standing out in contrast or distraction to the exchange of conversation.
Hope you find that magical balance.
I don't know if it's an applicable saying; but - "when in doubt, take something out" - aligning with the "less-is-more" approach.
Good luck with your pitch.
Thanks Mark. It's good to get fresh ears on this. Perhaps we went too far with the distortion and vocal effects.cosmicdolphin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 4:48 pmIt sounds too distorted to me guys, I had trouble listening to it. If it's deliberate then I might look at reducing the effect or targeting it only on to one or two specific track elements. At the moment to me ( and I suspect to the screeners ears ) it just sounds like someone made a mistake in their DAW rather than an actual production decision.
Also the vocals also seem to have some sort of delay based effect that makes them sound phasey / flangey which gives a very throwback dated kinda vibe. Overall the whole production is coming across rather messy to me at the moment.
I don't know if you have any reference tracks but if you do it might be an idea to post them up so we can hear what you were going for.
Mark
Spot on, Mark!cosmicdolphin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 4:48 pmIt sounds too distorted to me guys, I had trouble listening to it. If it's deliberate then I might look at reducing the effect or targeting it only on to one or two specific track elements. At the moment to me ( and I suspect to the screeners ears ) it just sounds like someone made a mistake in their DAW rather than an actual production decision.
Also the vocals also seem to have some sort of delay based effect that makes them sound phasey / flangey which gives a very throwback dated kinda vibe. Overall the whole production is coming across rather messy to me at the moment.
I don't know if you have any reference tracks but if you do it might be an idea to post them up so we can hear what you were going for.
Mark
