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How's This Mix?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:41 am
by DavRom

Re: How's This Mix?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:45 am
by k o star
DavRom wrote:Waiting For Morning

thx!
Mix sounds good to me Dav..
Love the acoustic guitar sound & spaciousness..

KO

Re: How's This Mix?

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:51 am
by DavRom
ok...thanks for taking the time KO

Re: How's This Mix?

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:12 am
by cardell
I liked it too...beautiful mood! :)

Stuart

Re: How's This Mix?

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:03 pm
by rnrmachine
Hey Davrom,

It sounds like a good mix to me until you add more instruments, it's sounds like what I tend to do... have too many instruments up front. I don't do it anymore but it wasn't very long ago when I did. When certain things come in, such as the Flute... (I think it is a flute but it is awfully low for a flute... definitely a wind instrument) ...then the bongos it gets a bit crammed and I don't know what to focus on as a listener. I would like to have the guitar move back into the mix a little and them take center stage when they come in OR have them as backing and not so upfront when they join in. I prefer they take center stage then release it to the next new instrument... That would sound way cool and more pro. imho

Your mix is good though so please take this as being extremely nit picky. ;)

Rob

Re: How's This Mix?

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:26 pm
by Burt Crow
This is a great track, reminds me of the ‘Thomas Crown Affair’ (original) sound track. I love the beautiful intertwining Oboe (French Horn?) line. Most of what I would suggest comes down to taste.

Have you considered beat syncing the filter on the firsts synth against the guitar intro? It seem a little machine harsh against the organic of the nature of your fantastic guitar playing. Maybe consider a ‘tube’ plug-in just to warm it – plenty of free ones around.

Piano is too loud for me, I realise in the hierarchy of instruments it appears foreground then recedes to the mid-ground. I’m just wearing ear buds so perhaps it is not so when through speakers, but the piano could also be panned a bit further left?

Even though it is orchestration, you might want to consider putting the cello/bass in the centre, as it will give the piece weight, but also the right side is very busy. Pull the conga over more to the left near the main guitar then I think spatially it will be more defined.

I don’t feel that the instruments are in one place. You needs some unifying reverb on the final out and perhaps some light EQ & very light compression just for character and to unify.

Love the composition

HTH
Burt

Re: How's This Mix?

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:42 pm
by DavRom
rnrmachine wrote:Hey Davrom,

It sounds like a good mix to me until you add more instruments, it's sounds like what I tend to do... have too many instruments up front. I don't do it anymore but it wasn't very long ago when I did. When certain things come in, such as the Flute... (I think it is a flute but it is awfully low for a flute... definitely a wind instrument) ...then the bongos it gets a bit crammed and I don't know what to focus on as a listener. I would like to have the guitar move back into the mix a little and them take center stage when they come in OR have them as backing and not so upfront when they join in. I prefer they take center stage then release it to the next new instrument... That would sound way cool and more pro. imho

Your mix is good though so please take this as being extremely nit picky. ;)

Rob
Rob, i have a hard time with balances. i wish i could write, record and then put it away for a month to get some objectivity before mixing. it shouldn't be so difficult but... anyway, it's nice to be able to post here and get comments like yours. i totally agree with your ideas.

thx for lending your ears!

Re: How's This Mix?

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:59 pm
by DavRom
Burt Crow wrote:This is a great track, reminds me of the ‘Thomas Crown Affair’ (original) sound track. I love the beautiful intertwining Oboe (French Horn?) line. Most of what I would suggest comes down to taste.
yeah it's oboe
Have you considered beat syncing the filter on the firsts synth against the guitar intro? It seem a little machine harsh against the organic of the nature of your fantastic guitar playing. Maybe consider a ‘tube’ plug-in just to warm it – plenty of free ones around.
i did not think of syncing the filter. nice one. although i hope the little noise stays random, i like that (bump in the night and all that). i was after some subtle randomness so i didn't use strings
Piano is too loud for me, I realise in the hierarchy of instruments it appears foreground then recedes to the mid-ground. I’m just wearing ear buds so perhaps it is not so when through speakers, but the piano could also be panned a bit further left?
it did start out too loud, especially on the 1st few notes, i fixed it
Even though it is orchestration, you might want to consider putting the cello/bass in the centre, as it will give the piece weight, but also the right side is very busy. Pull the conga over more to the left near the main guitar then I think spatially it will be more defined.
indeed, i've been thinking of that cuz i want to center the low parts. but, i'm listening to a lot tv/film stuff and the basses are always on the right. that's my target anyway. the conga is not as critical
I don’t feel that the instruments are in one place. You needs some unifying reverb on the final out and perhaps some light EQ & very light compression just for character and to unify.
like balance, this is another aspect i have trouble with. i'll try running it thru Ozone's reverb. also, i have a fairchild plugin on the mixbuss, maybe need to push it a little more
Love the composition

HTH
Burt
helps tremendously and glad you enjoyed it

big thx!

Re: How's This Mix?

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:02 pm
by DavRom
cardell wrote:I liked it too...beautiful mood! :)

Stuart
:D

Re: How's This Mix?

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 12:07 am
by rnrmachine
Oboe... HAHA I'm not retarded I swear... low for a flute ROFLMAO.... can't tell it's been a while since I have paid attention to Orchestral instruments huh?! I knew it was a wind instrument but I just couldn't think of the name. hehe

In my defense, I am mixing and have my mind on a new song I am writing... so while I am processing stuff I was answering posts. hehe

Rob