Help!!!! Too Many Returns (0 for 33)
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:41 pm
I'm relatively new to Taxi (at least within the past 6 months or so). I have submitted 33 songs, and so far none have been forwarded. (there still are maybe 5 or 6 that are still "pending", but I imagine that if they were going to be forwarded, that would show up a few days after the deadline, otherwise timeliness would be an issue. I imagine reviewers taking time to write reviews for Returned songs.. at least that would be my least favorite part of the job.. like giving an employee review at a company, managers are famous for hating that part of their job... who likes giving bad news? but I digress.) I understand the need and service Taxi offers, and not complaining about or addressing that, just really discouraged.
Also idly wondering if a reviewer looks at the submitter's history before listening to a song and, for example, sees they have 30+ Returns with no forward if that might negatively affect their review of the latest offering. Hey, its human nature, and the "power of suggestion" has been proven in countless blind tests.
1st Question: What is the record for most submissions without a forward, I am wondering? Is 33 anywhere close?
(benchmarking is always a vital business management tool.)
Realizing insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, I realize I need to change something, and perhaps I have to solicit some feedback, so that is why I am here. I printed out and reviewed all the critiques I have gotten (and even on yes/no listings, there is some info that is beyond the obligation of the reviewer, I appreciate that). I have been reading posts in this forum, and it seems that "stylistically off target" is one of the most common reasons given, so I understand that. But I also have gotten a few "retro" or "not contemporary sounding" comments. Granted, my "impressionistic" era was the '70s, and perhaps my stuff does have a '70s feel. I am studying Robin Frederick's book about hit songwriting, and recently changed my listening habits.. no more music not from the 21st century. no exceptions. Maybe after a steady diet of more modern music some of it will come out in my song writing, but that will take time.
Second question: do any of you have suggestions on how to modernize your sound quickly (following suggestions in Robin's book hopefully can help, but still wondering if I can actually pull it off.) Any other practical suggestions would be appreciated.
Reviewing the reviews, some of the reviews like my voice. Comments I've gotten include "I like your voice" and "you are obviously an experienced and accomplished guitar player and singer" (I was walking on air after that one). Others (like reviewer #332) apparently doesn't like it so much, and repetitively check the "vocal performance" box as a reason for returning. I know I don't have a "pure" voice, and perhaps its an acquired taste. And, perhaps my vocal performance varies from day to day. (I have heard comments from former band mates like "you were really on today, pitch-wise!", which implies that other days, perhaps not so much. lol) Some of the reviews have suggested resources which i will try, maybe I still can learn to improve my voice we'll see.
Recording quality has also been somewhat "hit or miss". Some reviews say it is ok/no issue, some say it is one of the reasons for return. I have worked really hard on my home recording/mixing/mastering skills, but not a pro by any means. Any way I could improve I'd try to embrace. Regardless, I think I am still learning and improving at a pretty good clip and have a ways to go before I'll "max out" my learning curve.
Anyway, I was really discouraged on a return earlier this week (U120903RK). The opportunity was for a theme song for a tv show. They were looking for a rock song, and mentioned ZZ Top as one of the referenced songs. I wrote a song (modeled after zz top) incorporating most of the themes they were looking for in the lyrics. I really thought I had a shot. The song is "Brotherhood on the Open Road", you can hear it here.
http://soundcloud.com/bluzmannn/brother ... pen-road-1
The reviewer returned it saying "not as contemporary sounding as what the music supervisor has requested regarding this specific theme song opportunity. The network's Music Supervisor specifically asked us to find a 'Greasy, Gritty, Contemporary ROCK SONG' in the following genres ROADHOUSE, BLUES ROCK, EDGY CLASSIC ROCK, OUTLAW COUNTRY, CONTEMPORARY INDIE ROCK with an EDGE in a range from Hank WIlliams III, the Black Keys to ZZ Top, Gov't Mule, Kid Rock, etc"
He/she also checked the "recording" box for reasons.
QUESTION: How did I miss the mark? Also, is there a problem with my recording quality, and if so, what do you hear? (I have a touch of "busted speaker" effect on my vocals, in an attempt to add some grit to my vocals). I guess I jumped on the following words and thought I had it from that: ZZ Top, Blues-Rock, Gov't Mule. heck even Roadhouse, but something went terribly wrong somewhere.
(NOTE: Roadhouse..what does that mean? I always think of the movie Roadhouse with Jeff Healey Band , RIP, as my go-to for that sub-genre, which is in my mind is just another way of saying "blues-rock", but if I am off please correct me.)
I truly am wondering if I will ever figure out the "code" to match up well enough to get through the gate with a forward. Heck, I'm not looking for any deal right now, just a "forward" would do wonders for my wounded psyche. Please help me out. Anything would help from, "I can't believe they returned that, you NAILED IT!" (lol) to "you suck, man, give it up now!". I'll accept the gamut. Hey just writing this has helped a little (but not much)... cheers.
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Listing U120903RK
THEME SONG needed for a HIGHLY ANTICIPATED NEW MAJOR CABLE NETWORK SERIES. The network's Music Supervisor specifically asked us to find a "Greasy, Gritty, Contemporary ROCK SONG" in the following genres: ROADHOUSE, BLUES ROCK, EDGY CLASSIC ROCK, OUTLAW COUNTRY, CONTEMPORARY INDIE ROCK with an EDGE in a range from Hank Williams III, The Black Keys to ZZ Top, Gov't Mule, Kid Rock, etc.Ê Although stylistically this listing is similar to U120829RK, the network has asked us to run a separate listing because this is for the show's THEME SONG and the terms of the deal are different (and much sweeter!). Quoting the music supervisor, "We're looking for a GRITTY, INSTANTLY COMPELLING and DISTINCTIVELY EDGY SONG with UNIQUE, SMOKY, THROATY, MACHO, "WHISKEY-SOAKED" MALE VOCALS about being a BIKER, the OPEN ROAD, LIFE ON THE ROAD, ROAMING FREE, HIGHWAYS, RIDIN' WITH THE WIND, TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS, STEPPIN' UP, LIVING BY A CREED, WHAT IT TAKES TO BE A MAN, STICKING BY YOUR BROTHERS, any references to RISING LIKE A PHOENIX, SURVIVING, LIFE ON YOUR OWN TERMS, OUTLAWS, etc. Lyrics should be intriguing and not necessarily on-the-nose." They're not looking for "outdated 1980's hard rock," metal or punk. Tempos can vary but the song should have a visceral, muscular energy about it. Because this will be a THEME SONG, your song will need a super strong hook.Ê Songs should be a minimum of two minutes long and the network will edit it down to :10-:60 from there. Don't underestimate the audience -- tough-minded, no B.S. men -- and give them something that suits their very macho, living-on-the-edge lifestyles. Quoting the music supervisor again, "The song should grab you from the first downbeat and the hook should reel you in." If the network chooses your song as the theme song for this show, you will be paidÊ$5,000-8,000 for all media, worldwide in perpetuity. You will keep 100% of the publishing and writers share! NO SAMPLES of other songs or artists can be incorporated into your track. You must own or control 100% of the master and publishing. This is DIRECT TO THE NETWORK so you will keep 100% of the upfront fee, publishing and writer's share. Broadcast Quality is needed (super-excellent home recordings are fine.) Please submit one to three songs online or on CD and BE SURE TO include your lyrics. Please make sure your photos and bio are up to date and include them with your submission. ALL SUBMISSIONS WILL BE SCREENED ON A YES/NO BASIS by a screener hand-picked by the music supervisor. No full critiques from TAXI. Submissions must be received no later than Monday, September 3, 2012, 10:00AM (PDT). TAXI #U120903RK
Also idly wondering if a reviewer looks at the submitter's history before listening to a song and, for example, sees they have 30+ Returns with no forward if that might negatively affect their review of the latest offering. Hey, its human nature, and the "power of suggestion" has been proven in countless blind tests.
1st Question: What is the record for most submissions without a forward, I am wondering? Is 33 anywhere close?
(benchmarking is always a vital business management tool.)
Realizing insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, I realize I need to change something, and perhaps I have to solicit some feedback, so that is why I am here. I printed out and reviewed all the critiques I have gotten (and even on yes/no listings, there is some info that is beyond the obligation of the reviewer, I appreciate that). I have been reading posts in this forum, and it seems that "stylistically off target" is one of the most common reasons given, so I understand that. But I also have gotten a few "retro" or "not contemporary sounding" comments. Granted, my "impressionistic" era was the '70s, and perhaps my stuff does have a '70s feel. I am studying Robin Frederick's book about hit songwriting, and recently changed my listening habits.. no more music not from the 21st century. no exceptions. Maybe after a steady diet of more modern music some of it will come out in my song writing, but that will take time.
Second question: do any of you have suggestions on how to modernize your sound quickly (following suggestions in Robin's book hopefully can help, but still wondering if I can actually pull it off.) Any other practical suggestions would be appreciated.
Reviewing the reviews, some of the reviews like my voice. Comments I've gotten include "I like your voice" and "you are obviously an experienced and accomplished guitar player and singer" (I was walking on air after that one). Others (like reviewer #332) apparently doesn't like it so much, and repetitively check the "vocal performance" box as a reason for returning. I know I don't have a "pure" voice, and perhaps its an acquired taste. And, perhaps my vocal performance varies from day to day. (I have heard comments from former band mates like "you were really on today, pitch-wise!", which implies that other days, perhaps not so much. lol) Some of the reviews have suggested resources which i will try, maybe I still can learn to improve my voice we'll see.
Recording quality has also been somewhat "hit or miss". Some reviews say it is ok/no issue, some say it is one of the reasons for return. I have worked really hard on my home recording/mixing/mastering skills, but not a pro by any means. Any way I could improve I'd try to embrace. Regardless, I think I am still learning and improving at a pretty good clip and have a ways to go before I'll "max out" my learning curve.
Anyway, I was really discouraged on a return earlier this week (U120903RK). The opportunity was for a theme song for a tv show. They were looking for a rock song, and mentioned ZZ Top as one of the referenced songs. I wrote a song (modeled after zz top) incorporating most of the themes they were looking for in the lyrics. I really thought I had a shot. The song is "Brotherhood on the Open Road", you can hear it here.
http://soundcloud.com/bluzmannn/brother ... pen-road-1
The reviewer returned it saying "not as contemporary sounding as what the music supervisor has requested regarding this specific theme song opportunity. The network's Music Supervisor specifically asked us to find a 'Greasy, Gritty, Contemporary ROCK SONG' in the following genres ROADHOUSE, BLUES ROCK, EDGY CLASSIC ROCK, OUTLAW COUNTRY, CONTEMPORARY INDIE ROCK with an EDGE in a range from Hank WIlliams III, the Black Keys to ZZ Top, Gov't Mule, Kid Rock, etc"
He/she also checked the "recording" box for reasons.
QUESTION: How did I miss the mark? Also, is there a problem with my recording quality, and if so, what do you hear? (I have a touch of "busted speaker" effect on my vocals, in an attempt to add some grit to my vocals). I guess I jumped on the following words and thought I had it from that: ZZ Top, Blues-Rock, Gov't Mule. heck even Roadhouse, but something went terribly wrong somewhere.
(NOTE: Roadhouse..what does that mean? I always think of the movie Roadhouse with Jeff Healey Band , RIP, as my go-to for that sub-genre, which is in my mind is just another way of saying "blues-rock", but if I am off please correct me.)
I truly am wondering if I will ever figure out the "code" to match up well enough to get through the gate with a forward. Heck, I'm not looking for any deal right now, just a "forward" would do wonders for my wounded psyche. Please help me out. Anything would help from, "I can't believe they returned that, you NAILED IT!" (lol) to "you suck, man, give it up now!". I'll accept the gamut. Hey just writing this has helped a little (but not much)... cheers.
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Listing U120903RK
THEME SONG needed for a HIGHLY ANTICIPATED NEW MAJOR CABLE NETWORK SERIES. The network's Music Supervisor specifically asked us to find a "Greasy, Gritty, Contemporary ROCK SONG" in the following genres: ROADHOUSE, BLUES ROCK, EDGY CLASSIC ROCK, OUTLAW COUNTRY, CONTEMPORARY INDIE ROCK with an EDGE in a range from Hank Williams III, The Black Keys to ZZ Top, Gov't Mule, Kid Rock, etc.Ê Although stylistically this listing is similar to U120829RK, the network has asked us to run a separate listing because this is for the show's THEME SONG and the terms of the deal are different (and much sweeter!). Quoting the music supervisor, "We're looking for a GRITTY, INSTANTLY COMPELLING and DISTINCTIVELY EDGY SONG with UNIQUE, SMOKY, THROATY, MACHO, "WHISKEY-SOAKED" MALE VOCALS about being a BIKER, the OPEN ROAD, LIFE ON THE ROAD, ROAMING FREE, HIGHWAYS, RIDIN' WITH THE WIND, TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS, STEPPIN' UP, LIVING BY A CREED, WHAT IT TAKES TO BE A MAN, STICKING BY YOUR BROTHERS, any references to RISING LIKE A PHOENIX, SURVIVING, LIFE ON YOUR OWN TERMS, OUTLAWS, etc. Lyrics should be intriguing and not necessarily on-the-nose." They're not looking for "outdated 1980's hard rock," metal or punk. Tempos can vary but the song should have a visceral, muscular energy about it. Because this will be a THEME SONG, your song will need a super strong hook.Ê Songs should be a minimum of two minutes long and the network will edit it down to :10-:60 from there. Don't underestimate the audience -- tough-minded, no B.S. men -- and give them something that suits their very macho, living-on-the-edge lifestyles. Quoting the music supervisor again, "The song should grab you from the first downbeat and the hook should reel you in." If the network chooses your song as the theme song for this show, you will be paidÊ$5,000-8,000 for all media, worldwide in perpetuity. You will keep 100% of the publishing and writers share! NO SAMPLES of other songs or artists can be incorporated into your track. You must own or control 100% of the master and publishing. This is DIRECT TO THE NETWORK so you will keep 100% of the upfront fee, publishing and writer's share. Broadcast Quality is needed (super-excellent home recordings are fine.) Please submit one to three songs online or on CD and BE SURE TO include your lyrics. Please make sure your photos and bio are up to date and include them with your submission. ALL SUBMISSIONS WILL BE SCREENED ON A YES/NO BASIS by a screener hand-picked by the music supervisor. No full critiques from TAXI. Submissions must be received no later than Monday, September 3, 2012, 10:00AM (PDT). TAXI #U120903RK