Would Kurt Cobain have made a deal in here?

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Re: Would Kurt Cobain have made a deal in here?

Post by Patrick » Sat May 29, 2021 10:56 am

The only similarity between Cobain and Mitchell?

One is a corpse, and the other one looks like a corpse.
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Re: Would Kurt Cobain have made a deal in here?

Post by Cameloide » Sat May 29, 2021 10:58 am

Zaychi wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 5:13 am
Cobain not branching out of his genre? Even in his notably VERY short career, and making grunge which was selling well and loved by millions of people, he took the risk of doing MTV Unplugged...
I don't really see playing your same hits with acoustic guitars instead of electric guitars as really branching out of your genre, and it hasn't really been courageous since Bob Dylan did the opposite and went
electric in 1965.

When I think branching out of your genre I think of (and some of y'all might laugh, but the joke would be on you) the late great Robert Palmer. At one point or another he dabbled with soul, funk, r&b, reggae, rock, heavy metal,
disco, new wave, jazz, blues, bossa nova, caribean music, african music and that's just what i can think of off the top of my head. Had he not died at the age of 54 he probably would've eventually done some rap, lol.

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Re: Would Kurt Cobain have made a deal in here?

Post by Cameloide » Sat May 29, 2021 11:06 am

cosmicdolphin wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 10:33 am
Yep...most of them don't believe you when you tell them either
And somehow they are the ones that are always most confident that it's going to end up on the radio too.

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Re: Would Kurt Cobain have made a deal in here?

Post by Patrick » Sat May 29, 2021 11:13 am

What's the old saw?

"The problem with the world today is that all of the stupid people are filled with confidence, while all of the intelligent ones are filled with doubt."

Somethin like dat.
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Re: Would Kurt Cobain have made a deal in here?

Post by superblonde » Sat May 29, 2021 11:48 am

Zaychi wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 5:13 am
took the risk of doing MTV Unplugged...
Cobain was late to the unplugged party and it was not a 'risk'. Numerous other bands not only performed there but released acoustic tracks just before or just after their performance.
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Re: Would Kurt Cobain have made a deal in here?

Post by superblonde » Sat May 29, 2021 11:51 am

Cameloide wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 10:38 am

Yes they both used "metaphors and mood painting" in lyrics. Who doesn't?
The majority doesn't. The biggest pop-rock artist of the past 20 years doesn't, Taylor Swift.
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Re: Would Kurt Cobain have made a deal in here?

Post by superblonde » Sat May 29, 2021 11:53 am

Cameloide wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 10:38 am
Nobody came up with the rules for Jazz 1st and then used that to make the classics
Coltrane
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Re: Would Kurt Cobain have made a deal in here?

Post by cosmicdolphin » Sat May 29, 2021 2:03 pm

Cameloide wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 11:06 am
cosmicdolphin wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 10:33 am
Yep...most of them don't believe you when you tell them either
And somehow they are the ones that are always most confident that it's going to end up on the radio too.
Yeah why is that I wonder

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Re: Would Kurt Cobain have made a deal in here?

Post by Cameloide » Sat May 29, 2021 3:03 pm

superblonde wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 11:51 am
Cameloide wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 10:38 am

Yes they both used "metaphors and mood painting" in lyrics. Who doesn't?
The majority doesn't. The biggest pop-rock artist of the past 20 years doesn't, Taylor Swift.
I thought damn...he might have me on that one. Being no Taylor Swift expert I begrudgingly googled "Taylor Swift lyrics" and clicked on the 1st one I recognized that was a hit (Tear Drops on My Guitar) and lo and behold there was a metaphor -
"He's the song in the car I keep singing"

Granted it was the only one, but I'd venture to say almost anybody that writes lyrics uses metaphors, maybe not skillfully or often, but that's probably the 2nd most basic and common technique used after rhyming.

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Re: Would Kurt Cobain have made a deal in here?

Post by superblonde » Sat May 29, 2021 3:09 pm

10-12 year-old choir boys in the year 1500 (boys only because girls purposely excluded) could harmonize all consonant intervals at will and on command and in real-time (i.e. by ear, without rehearsal). That was over 500 years ago, after a couple years of proper training. Now in 2021 the musical world is like, "oh, I have a musician I'm calling a 'vocalist' who can't harmonize even after multiple attempts, oh well I'll just put it in ProTools and use melodyne". How low standards have fallen. I blame Miles Davis for this fallen state of the musical world.

I believe Olivia Rodrigo could write on spec and make deals if needed since she has written/collab'ed for tv already successfully.
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