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mactheneck · Post by **mactheneck** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:17 pm

Hi everybodyI need to upgrade my songs to 192kbps/44.1 kHz for broadjam.Can anybody recommend a converter? Thanx ahead

andreh · Post by **andreh** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:09 am

Mac-You should be encoding your original, non-compressed .wav or .aif files to 192k mp3's before you submit them to Broadjam. MP3 compression is lossy, meaning the decompressed signal is an approximation of the original signal before compression, so if you "upgrade" from whatever your current rate is to 192k, you'll actually be making things sound worse since the signal has to be decoded and then encoded again.If you don't have the original .wav or .aif files (which you should), then you're better off leaving things as they are for the sake of sound quality. If you must have 192k files (which I think Broadjam requires if you wish to sell them), be aware of the quality trade-off you're making; the degradation in sound might not be as offensive to you as it is to some, but it sure won't make anything better! Itunes is free, works on the Mac and PC, and can do lots of compression/conversion:www.itunes.comAndre

Casey H · Post by **Casey H** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:59 am

Just to reiterate what Andre said...You must make your mp3 files from the original hi resolution .wav or .aiff files. You cannot get back what was once lost... e.g. converting a 128K mp3 to 192K mp3 gains nothing since information was lost in compression down to 128K.The same thing goes for creating .wav files when they are requested. Converting an mp3 to .wav gains nothing, you are just making a very large file without any better information. I'vehad to explain this quite a few times when folks submit songs to me by mp3 for quick review and then I ask for a .wav file to burn a hi quality audio CD or pass the .wav on to a listing party. Some will use a utility converter, convert the mp3 to .wav and think that they've accomplished something. Only the original master .wav or .aiff has value for hi quality audio. Casey

53mph · Post by **53mph** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:20 am

Hurowitz,Does this mean that the Creative X-Fi Audio processing Up-sampler is a con?I claims to restore downsampled audio to it's original fidelity. Even converting CDs back up to 24 bit. It has some kind of voodoo like performance that according to Wired Magazine.Is it possible or is it like those old x-ray specs you used to be able to get from magazines that imitates the impossible?

mactheneck · Post by **mactheneck** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:48 am

Thank you just the same andreh and hurowitz but I was going to a 192 from my wav masters and not from my 128 mp3s. Unfortunately itunes is only for 2000 and xp, while I have only 98SE. There is this free audio converter from softwarepile.http://www.sharewareconnection.com/free ... verter.htm Any experience with that one? Any more suggestions on that problem? Thank you. Richard

Casey H · Post by **Casey H** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:17 am

Quote:Hurowitz,Does this mean that the Creative X-Fi Audio processing Up-sampler is a con?I claims to restore downsampled audio to it's original fidelity. Even converting CDs back up to 24 bit. It has some kind of voodoo like performance that according to Wired Magazine.Is it possible or is it like those old x-ray specs you used to be able to get from magazines that imitates the impossible?Dunno... Maybe someone else knows what this product does. I can't figure out how you can make something out of nothing. I hope someone else will pitch in here and give more informaiton on "up-sampling".Also, regarding converter programs... Be careful of ones that convert by playing the track through your sound card (analog) and re-sampling to digital. This can not give your the quality of a pure digital conversion. If your conversion program has to play the whole track to convert, it is doing the above.There are many good (and free) digital conversion programs. I use the one in Music Match Jukebox, although I don't think the conversion feature comes with the free version. I think you have to buy the "plus" version.Anyone else, please shed more light on the subject here.... Casey

longrider · Post by **longrider** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:42 am

Howdy Martheneck I use Pryo 4 to make my MP3 to 192kbps...

zircon · Post by **zircon** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:59 pm

Yes, the X-Fi saying it can "up-sample" in the sense of making the sound *better* than the original recording is stupid and ridiculous.

anne · Post by **anne** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:18 pm

Hi mactheneck, If you need it for a listing ending soon, I can do the conversion from your wav or aiff file for you to help you get started while your looking for the right program.Anne

hephaluemp · Post by **hephaluemp** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:26 pm

Quote:Hurowitz,Does this mean that the Creative X-Fi Audio processing Up-sampler is a con?I claims to restore downsampled audio to it's original fidelity. Even converting CDs back up to 24 bit. It has some kind of voodoo like performance that according to Wired Magazine.Is it possible or is it like those old x-ray specs you used to be able to get from magazines that imitates the impossible?Here's a good article about it, with even email correspondence with the developer.http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/mul ... 2.htmlLots of tests.It looks like it tries to expand any transients in the music, the article compares it to the Waves TransX plugin.Hepha Luemp

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