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American Idol songs

Post by nomiyah » Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:47 pm

I always thought AI should have a songwriter competition and now they do. If anyone hears about how to enter, let me know.Nomi'American Idol' plots songwriting contestUpdated Mon. Jan. 15 2007 10:58 AM ETAssociated PressLOS ANGELES -- "American Idol" knows that bad can be good, but not always.Untalented singers who fail spectacularly in the early auditions are so bad they make for good television. Forcing talented finalists to perform such forgettable tunes as "Do I Make You Proud"? That's just plain awful.To remedy this flaw in CTV's hit TV show, which begins its sixth season Tuesday and Wednesday, a song-writing competition to be decided by viewers is in the works."At the end of it, the country will not only have the singer they want, they'll have the song they want," said Ken Warwick, a series executive producer.Details of the song contest are in flux but the intent is to make it happen, said Warwick and others connected with the show. The newest "American Idol" will be crowned in May.Given the well-oiled machine that TV's No. 1 series has become, is it odd that the contest and its mechanics haven't been locked in place by now? No, said Warwick.Attention has gone to completing the early episodes, he said, while "what we're talking about here is something that won't happen until slightly later on."It may also be a matter of discretion."We are very close to putting it (the song contest) in place," Martha Brass, executive vice-president for series producer 19 Entertainment, said from London."It's just a question of not wanting to get it out there too soon so that we lose enthusiasm and momentum," Brass said. "Given there are five months left, we want to make sure that we introduce it at the right time."But it needs to happen, said Paula Abdul, part of the three-judge panel that narrows the initial field of singing contestants. The trio doesn't weigh in on the tune that serves as the winner's first single, and until now the audience that picks the new idol hasn't either."I just want the poor contestant who wins to be happy to sing a song that radio's going to play," Abdul said.Warwick agrees that the tunes written for the finalists have been wanting. They've been chosen by 19 Entertainment, which produces "American Idol" with FremantleMedia North America, and Sony BMG. The winner's record contract, signed with 19 Entertainment's 19 Recordings, is licensed to Sony BMG."Kelly Clarkson's 'A Moment Like This' (in season one) knocked us out, but since then it's been a bit blank," Warwick said.The planned contest gives those who believe they can put music and lyrics together the chance at an instant hit.As Brass tentatively sketched it, submissions could be uploaded on a site reached through americanidol.com and reviewed by series executive producer (and original "Pop Idol" creator) Simon Fuller and music industry experts.A "manageable" number of songs could be posted on the site for the public to hear and vote on, she said. The finalists -- Warwick said they might number a dozen songs -- may be performed on "American Idol" or on a Fox special by contestants from past seasons, Brass said.

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Re: American Idol songs

Post by andreh » Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:22 pm

Cool! This is gonna be a fun one for a lot of us...and a great test for Taxi! This better show up as a listing. Thanks for sharing, Nomi.Andre
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Re: American Idol songs

Post by jchitty » Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:07 am

I'd be interested to know the further details of the AI's songwriter competition, the ones they said they would reveal at a later date. I hope there are no age restrictions on this one. I was confused last night....it appeared that songwriters were forced to sing their own songs while being critiqued by Simon, Paula, and Randy, but they also said that you could submit tapes. I'd hate to think we'd all have to be under 28 years old and have good voices to submit a song. Songwriting is the last bastion of the behind the scenes worker bee, and it's not affected by image, age, good voice, etc.

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Re: American Idol songs

Post by nomiyah » Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:54 pm

Anyone participate in American Idol Underground? They are having a contest, which usually they charge for, but for some reason they offered me free entry. Their legal mumbo-jumbo is a bit intimidating. It seems reasonable but if anyone is up for reading it, I'd appreciate the advice. Take a deep breath, here goes:Please read this Agreement carefully. By clicking on the "I AGREE" button, you will become a party to, and will be bound by this Agreement. If you do not agree with all of the terms and conditions of this Agreement, click on the "NO THANKS" button. Please note that we may modify this Agreement from time to time as further described in Paragraph 6 below. The term of this Agreement ("Term") shall commence on the date on which you click the "I AGREE" button and shall continue until the date five (5) days after either party receives notice from the other, in accordance with Paragraph 9(d) below, of their election to terminate the Term. 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Re: American Idol songs

Post by nomiyah » Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:57 pm

Before you say "go ask an entertainment lawyer", consider that the slim possibility of monetary compensation doesn't justify the legal expense. If I can't understand it myself (with your help?) I won't enter. Thanks.

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Re: American Idol songs

Post by edteja » Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:31 am

The last time I tried to get a lawyer to comment on something like this he said: "It all really comes down to the honesty of the people signing it." Not much help here, since you don't know them. But I noticed that they are forcing you into the publisher role. And that could be okay, if you are into it. The rest is sort of: "we do what we want with your song on our websites." On the other hand it is nonexclusive and you can terminate at any time without penalty. Hey, I'd be on the fence.
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Re: American Idol songs

Post by nomiyah » Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:31 pm

Ed,You're the only brave one here. What a drag us artists have to focus on this mumbo-jumbo. My mom used to tell me "Hey Amadeus, take out the garbage"Nomi

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Post by andreh » Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:01 pm

Quote:Ed,You're the only brave one here. What a drag us artists have to focus on this mumbo-jumbo. My mom used to tell me "Hey Amadeus, take out the garbage"NomiNomi-One thing I've picked up on with contracts generated by big, established companies is that each section usually contains a singular legal message, but is described with a lot of words. For example, one section on ownership might use 3 paragraphs to make the seemingly simple point that "you retain ownership" or "we acquire exclusive publishing rights." Another might take 10 bullet points to make the point that "You may not share any of our company's trade secrets."This is not to say that these contracts are in your best interest to sign, or that you shouldn't read and understand the fine points of the contract. It's just that these companies usually hire lawyers to draft contracts, and it's in their best interest for them to be well-organized and unambiguous (which is good for both sides IMO).Smaller companies sometimes use boilerplate contracts that miss important points or send conflicting messages, and these are the type that I'm even more careful about signing without asking the right questions for clarification.AndreBTW - This contract does seem pretty harmless after a quick skim through. A big company to AI (or whoever their parent company is) will be very careful about advertising things like "You maintain all the rights to your songs" and not conflicting with that in the contract's fine print; it's not worth it for their reputation to seem dishonest.
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Re: American Idol songs

Post by myall » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:09 pm

About the American Idol songwiting contest. Keep going to Americanidol.com and what ever news about the contest should be there, I go check it out almost everyday.

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Re: American Idol songs

Post by nomiyah » Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:36 pm

When I watched AI tonight (sorry Von, I just like watching it), Ryan announced there was another contest. I grabbed paper and pen thinking he was going to talk about the songwriting contest. But no, just another Verizon promotion. Nomi

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