An idea... (maybe a challenge?)

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Re: An idea... (maybe a challenge?)

Post by aubreyz » Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:39 pm

My new years resolution for 2008 ---Ignore frivolous postings from anonymous whack jobs who believe that the black helicopters are there to personally keep them from having success in the music business. Happy New Year!!

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Re: An idea... (maybe a challenge?)

Post by michael11 » Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:25 pm

Quote:Quote: I would think a lot of people here know in their heart of hearts they haven't got a cat in hells chance of achieving the level of success that matto has achieved.However,there is a saying that goes something like,'it is better to travel hopefully than arrive' and you are taking away peoples hope.So then you too think it is a crap shoot.Don't blame me for taking away hope when you too agree.Hey, there are people who have a good time gambling.Let us gamble reponsibly though shall we.I agree we can have a good time doing it. I love music and hope that all that do what we do love it too so that the time is not a waste.But be advised from some one who has major credits in this business that you better undestand what you are in or else you can get hurt.THAT, my freind, is helping people NOT hurting them!Being from the UK I have to admit I didn't know what a 'crapshoot"was,so I googled it. 1. crapshoot - a risky and uncertain venture; "getting admitted to the college of your choice has become a crapshoot"danger, risk, peril - a venture undertaken without regard to possible loss or injury; if this is a fair description???I will just use the last line as a quote "a venture undertaken without regard to possible loss or injury"; I have full regard for any "loss" I may incur with Taxi and I consider it money well spent and the only "injury" I have suffered is to my ego!!!!!
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Re: An idea... (maybe a challenge?)

Post by ginstl » Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:45 pm

I like your sensibilities Steve! I hope someone else won't become suspicious of me for saying so.Greg.

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Re: An idea... (maybe a challenge?)

Post by matto » Tue Jan 01, 2008 5:00 pm

Quote:Interesting... No one has followed up on what I suggested in the post that created this thread (Read up). If I knew it would become like this, I would have never started it. I just thought some folks would have some songs reviewed by members here and compare to what feedback they were getting from reviewers. That is all... Nothing more, nothing less... I am disappointed that it has gone this direction. Anyone interested in sticking to the music and the feedback? CaseyCasey, I'm sorry for my part in hijacking your thread, but I think it's an interesting discussion that should continue...As far as your original suggestion, I agree with squids.In addition I'm personally not really interested in spending more time proving that I know what I'm talking about or that Taxi screeners do. I'd rather spend my time giving feedback on people's music to hopefully help them land more forwards (and ultimately deals), or helping someone better understand a critique so they can perhaps learn more from it.If this makes sense.

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Re: An idea... (maybe a challenge?)

Post by Casey H » Tue Jan 01, 2008 5:40 pm

Quote:Quote:Interesting... No one has followed up on what I suggested in the post that created this thread (Read up). If I knew it would become like this, I would have never started it. I just thought some folks would have some songs reviewed by members here and compare to what feedback they were getting from reviewers. That is all... Nothing more, nothing less... I am disappointed that it has gone this direction. Anyone interested in sticking to the music and the feedback? CaseyCasey, I'm sorry for my part in hijacking your thread, but I think it's an interesting discussion that should continue...As far as your original suggestion, I agree with squids.In addition I'm personally not really interested in spending more time proving that I know what I'm talking about or that Taxi screeners do. I'd rather spend my time giving feedback on people's music to hopefully help them land more forwards (and ultimately deals), or helping someone better understand a critique so they can perhaps learn more from it.If this makes sense.MattoNo worries. If you or anyone doesn't like the idea of a thread then, as with any other, you wouldn't participate. People like yourself, who spend so much time already helping others could clearly see this as one more energy drain and not worth it.As far as taking the thread another direction, it's up to everyone out there to take it where they want to or take it nowhere at all. It goes where it goes. So, no apologies really needed by you or anyone else who posted. I think my disappointment was that it was becoming another typical message board war (we can read that anywhere!) with things getting a bit personal. So, please everyone... continue the discussion if you want to without feeling like you've hijacked a plane. I think less personal jabbing and the more about the subject (whatever it becomes), the better- but it's not up to me.I'm going to go to other threads and give people my feedback on their songs. The time would be better spent. If the original idea didn't work for most folks here, that's OK... Sometimes you try things... All the best,Casey

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Re: An idea... (maybe a challenge?)

Post by matto » Tue Jan 01, 2008 5:52 pm

Quote:I think that is something that has happened to music library writers as well. You go through dry spells, stretches of time when you can't come up with the ideas that people used to go ape over. Or even God forbid, writer's block.I think that's entirely possible, but when you already have a catalog of several hundred songs that have been placed in a large number of royalty generating situations (and continue to be placed), it tends to be easier to weather a dry spell.If instead you depend on a handful of hit songs, or a few major movies or perhaps a couple of tv series you scored for your entire income, you'll be more "vulnerable" because you are less diversified.Unless they are bonafide "classics".I also think the more "visible" a person is, the more they tend to be subject to the fickle nature of "trends" and "hotlists" (or worse..."notlists" ) and the like.Artists are the most visible, followed probably by producers nowadays, then (hit)songwriters and top film composers. And so on...library composers are WAY down the list, hovering right around the invisibility mark .IMHO, the higher you are on that list, the harder it is to stay "at the top".Another point is that if you have to write 500 quality tracks to make a living (as a music library composer) and you have succeeded doing this, chances are you're fairly prolific, fairly versatile and adapt fairly easily to new styles and trends. Qualities which atrtists, producers and hit writers do not necessarily possess.

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Re: An idea... (maybe a challenge?)

Post by jude3 » Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:46 am

Quote:Quote:I think that is something that has happened to music library writers as well. You go through dry spells, stretches of time when you can't come up with the ideas that people used to go ape over. Or even God forbid, writer's block.I think that's entirely possible, but when you already have a catalog of several hundred songs that have been placed in a large number of royalty generating situations (and continue to be placed), it tends to be easier to weather a dry spell.If instead you depend on a handful of hit songs, or a few major movies or perhaps a couple of tv series you scored for your entire income, you'll be more "vulnerable" because you are less diversified.Unless they are bonafide "classics".I also think the more "visible" a person is, the more they tend to be subject to the fickle nature of "trends" and "hotlists" (or worse..."notlists" ) and the like.Artists are the most visible, followed probably by producers nowadays, then (hit)songwriters and top film composers. And so on...library composers are WAY down the list, hovering right around the invisibility mark .IMHO, the higher you are on that list, the harder it is to stay "at the top".Another point is that if you have to write 500 quality tracks to make a living (as a music library composer) and you have succeeded doing this, chances are you're fairly prolific, fairly versatile and adapt fairly easily to new styles and trends. Qualities which atrtists, producers and hit writers do not necessarily possess.I totlally disagree.record writers and producers not only hae to be diverse they have to predict and andticapate trends.Also you are speaking from your advantage pointYou don't think that there are thousands composers out there as good as you that don't have your status after as much time in the business?Your are blessed matto. Blessed is a better word than luck i suppose. Not to say you don't desrve to be blessed. Do anyody accuse me of that please.

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