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Another Celtic cue question...

Post by Tunesmith » Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:55 pm

HI All,

IRISH and CELTIC INSTRUMENTAL CUES #Y180131CC
I was wondering if this listing needs the Celtic tune (jig, reel) structure? AABB (eight bar phrases) Or can verse verse chorus verse chorus verse chorus out be ok? I already recorded the latter (song) format and was informed about the jig/reel format..

Thank you in advance!

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Re: Another Celtic cue question...

Post by Tunesmith » Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:16 pm

Well I listened to the examples all the way through and they are the AABB style so my question is answered. EVen tho I have heard lots of Irish and Celtic music, I never thought of the structure.

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Re: Another Celtic cue question...

Post by funsongs » Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:27 pm

Tunesmith wrote:Well I listened to the examples all the way through and they are the AABB style so my question is answered. Even though I have heard lots of Irish and Celtic music, I never thought of the structure.
I'm still the Newbie at The Ould Sod Trad Seisiuns (every Tuesday night), and have been learning about the structure.
Forgive me if I'm stating something you already know. The simplest is the 2-melody/repeated AABB structure - which, in a typical Trad Seisiun (session)
is played 3 times, before a signal is given, by the one leading that 'set', to medley into the next tune - usually similar in kind: i.e. jig-to-jig, reel-to-reel,
slip jig-to-slip jig, etc.
There are plenty of tunes that have multiple melodies, even as many as 5; i.e. Dr. O'Neill's Jig is AA-BB-CC-DD-EE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVNRyMUZsbg

With that length, it can be common to play it alone, with no following tune and/or only played through twice, rather than 3 times; at the discretion of the one leading out.

It's great fun music to play, and creates an incredibly sociable and upbeat atmosphere. A few pints of Guinness don't hurt, neither! :? :P
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Re: Another Celtic cue question...

Post by Tunesmith » Sat Jan 20, 2018 2:27 pm

funsongs wrote:
Tunesmith wrote:Well I listened to the examples all the way through and they are the AABB style so my question is answered. Even though I have heard lots of Irish and Celtic music, I never thought of the structure.
I'm still the Newbie at The Ould Sod Trad Seisiuns (every Tuesday night), and have been learning about the structure.
Forgive me if I'm stating something you already know. The simplest is the 2-melody/repeated AABB structure - which, in a typical Trad Seisiun (session)
is played 3 times, before a signal is given, by the one leading that 'set', to medley into the next tune - usually similar in kind: i.e. jig-to-jig, reel-to-reel,
slip jig-to-slip jig, etc.
There are plenty of tunes that have multiple melodies, even as many as 5; i.e. Dr. O'Neill's Jig is AA-BB-CC-DD-EE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVNRyMUZsbg

With that length, it can be common to play it alone, with no following tune and/or only played through twice, rather than 3 times; at the discretion of the one leading out.

It's great fun music to play, and creates an incredibly sociable and upbeat atmosphere. A few pints of Guinness don't hurt, neither! :? :P
Are we gonna get to hear your tune?
Peter,
You are very helpful with this..thank you..no I don't know jack %% about the "theory" of it all but I have always had a passion for the music. Just never played it really..and never composed any. I have friends who are way into this music with concertinas, accordion..one even owns a home in Mabu NS strictly for the music there. I've seen Natalie McMaster perform and the flutist I am working with is also way into Celtic and gave me a Liz Carol Cd which is excellent.
I will upload my 1st attempt as soon as I finish it! The terms, jig, slip etc..all new to me..I will watch your video link..fortunately, my flutist was a musc teach for over 30 years, so she won'y let me slide..it was she who pointed my song structure...
Wish me luck!

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Re: Another Celtic cue question...

Post by nicotina » Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:12 pm

I submitted a bunch of these, since I used to play celtic music a lot. I did jigs and reels, but I get the sense that you don't need to be that authentic. From the description, it sounds to me like they would be open to anything that "sounds" Irish. So I would guess the song form is less important then the instrumentation. If you can get an real instrument in there, and play it with some celtic ornamentation (cuts, rolls, etc), I wouldn't worry about strict song structure.

Just my guess,

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Re: Another Celtic cue question...

Post by Tunesmith » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:19 pm

Well I went for it..why not?

learned the beginner watermelon guitar strumming, had my friend record her Irish flute..and she wrote the melody..

Added Appcordian's Squeeze box, played some bass...

https://soundcloud.com/lindacullum/celt ... ullumsears

Thank you Peter for your tips and guidance..love the Appcordian apps..they are an incredible deal...geez..

And Thank you Vince as well! It's a whole different way of playing..

Bear to all,
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Re: Another Celtic cue question...

Post by funsongs » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:41 pm

Tunesmith wrote:Well I went for it..why not?

learned the beginner watermelon guitar strumming, had my friend record her Irish flute..and she wrote the melody..

Added Appcordian's Squeeze box, played some bass...

https://soundcloud.com/lindacullum/celt ... ullumsears

Thank you Peter for your tips and guidance..love the Appcordian apps..they are an incredible deal...geez..

And Thank you Vince as well! It's a whole different way of playing..

Bear to all,
Linda
I took the $5 gamble, too - and sent in the instrument track from a song; we'll see how it goes...
now to forget and rePete!! :? :lol:
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Re: Another Celtic cue question...

Post by LOCK88 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:56 pm

Love the Irish flute Linda, nice! Good luck with your submission
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Re: Another Celtic cue question...

Post by nicotina » Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:33 am

nicely done- the accordion is a nice touch.

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Re: Another Celtic cue question...

Post by Tunesmith » Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:37 am

LOCK88 wrote:Love the Irish flute Linda, nice! Good luck with your submission
Hi Thank you..iit did get forwarded!

Best to you and everyone!

Linda

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