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Re: Bad Music Libraries exist. Let's discuss!

Post by fusilierb » Tue May 08, 2012 4:13 pm

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Post by mazz » Tue May 08, 2012 4:30 pm

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DesireInspires wrote: Let's say you signed music to a major music publisher on an exclusive basis. You heard nothing from this library for a few years. One day you discover your music added to another music library that licenses songs on a retitle, non-exclusive basis. You also find those same cues on a royalty-free music library site. Would you feel betrayed?


2nd question - WTF?? Betrayed would not be the word I would choose. I'm not so sure that I'd immediately assume that the exclusive library gave your music to the other sources. In fact, that would be the last thing I assumed. But I would definately contact the other two places and get to the bottom of where they got your music.
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Post by davewalton » Tue May 08, 2012 4:38 pm

DesireInspires wrote:Good information, guys.


See if you can answer these questions:

Would it be a fair deal for a songwriter to give up half of his writer's share and all of his publisher's to get songs placed on a popular TV show on a major television network?


Say you have music with a music library that has registered your cues with your respective PRO. If the music library issued a direct license to a TV network that did not pay a sync fee or backend royalties, would you pursue legal action against the music library and/or the TV network?


Let's say you signed music to a major music publisher on an exclusive basis. You heard nothing from this library for a few years. One day you discover your music added to another music library that licenses songs on a retitle, non-exclusive basis. You also find those same cues on a royalty-free music library site. Would you feel betrayed?
How is any of this relevant to your specific situation? We could sit around all day writing thesis-length replies to every imaginable situation that you can come up with. These questions are like "What if you sign with a library but they turn out to be agents with the Russian mafia. Would you be scared?". Really... unless you DID just sign with a library that's really a front for the Russian mafia, any answer is irrelevant and the whole excercise is pointless (well... for the people answering at least ;) ).

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Post by crs7string » Tue May 08, 2012 4:46 pm

davewalton wrote:
DesireInspires wrote:Good information, guys.


See if you can answer these questions:

Would it be a fair deal for a songwriter to give up half of his writer's share and all of his publisher's to get songs placed on a popular TV show on a major television network?


Say you have music with a music library that has registered your cues with your respective PRO. If the music library issued a direct license to a TV network that did not pay a sync fee or backend royalties, would you pursue legal action against the music library and/or the TV network?


Let's say you signed music to a major music publisher on an exclusive basis. You heard nothing from this library for a few years. One day you discover your music added to another music library that licenses songs on a retitle, non-exclusive basis. You also find those same cues on a royalty-free music library site. Would you feel betrayed?
How is any of this relevant to your specific situation? We could sit around all day writing thesis-length replies to every imaginable situation that you can come up with. They're like "What if you sign with a library but they turn out to be agents with the Russian mafia. Would you be scared?". Well... unless you DID just sign with a library that's really a front for the Russian mafia, any answer is irrelevant and the whole excercise is pointless (well... for the people answering at least ;) ).

Dear Dave, (as in Dear Abby)

I am following up with a library in the Czech Republic that I made contact with at the NAB Show that distributes it's library in the US thru a library in Nashville. Should I be concerned????


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Post by DesireInspires » Tue May 08, 2012 4:48 pm

davewalton wrote:
How is any of this relevant to your specific situation? We could sit around all day writing thesis-length replies to every imaginable situation that you can come up with. They're like "What if you sign with a library but they turn out to be agents with the Russian mafia. Would you be scared?". Well... unless you DID just sign with a library that's really a front for the Russian mafia, any answer is irrelevant and the whole excercise is pointless (well... for the people answering at least ;) ).

The proposed questions were asked so that experienced composers can provide their knowledge and experience to the board. The questions and answers can be used by other composers as a reference to specific issues regarding music licensing.

If you lack knowledge or are afraid to share information, I understand. Please be respectful, as this thread is not solely for your benefit. It is for the benefit of all composers that find this information helpful. Learn to respect others and they will respect you.

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Post by fusilierb » Tue May 08, 2012 4:57 pm

Unbelievable. That's it. Officially done playing this game. My desire has permanently become uninspired.

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Post by michael11 » Tue May 08, 2012 9:36 pm

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Post by michael11 » Tue May 08, 2012 9:44 pm

DesireInspires wrote:
davewalton wrote:
How is any of this relevant to your specific situation? We could sit around all day writing thesis-length replies to every imaginable situation that you can come up with. They're like "What if you sign with a library but they turn out to be agents with the Russian mafia. Would you be scared?". Well... unless you DID just sign with a library that's really a front for the Russian mafia, any answer is irrelevant and the whole excercise is pointless (well... for the people answering at least ;) ).

The proposed questions were asked so that experienced composers can provide their knowledge and experience to the board. The questions and answers can be used by other composers as a reference to specific issues regarding music licensing.

If you lack knowledge or are afraid to share information, I understand. Please be respectful, as this thread is not solely for your benefit. It is for the benefit of all composers that find this information helpful. Learn to respect others and they will respect you.


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Post by brentmagstadt » Wed May 09, 2012 4:14 pm

I'm adding the Russian Mafia question to my list that I ask publishers - it's an excellent one; one I want to know about.

In fact, maybe I better ask some of my current ones that - I saw one of them at a bar one late night last early November (shh... don't ask what I was doing there...). I also witnessed a paper transfer, at the time; pretty worrisome.
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Post by DesireInspires » Fri May 11, 2012 2:27 pm

brentmagstadt wrote:I'm adding the Russian Mafia question to my list that I ask publishers - it's an excellent one; one I want to know about.

In fact, maybe I better ask some of my current ones that - I saw one of them at a bar one late night last early November (shh... don't ask what I was doing there...). I also witnessed a paper transfer, at the time; pretty worrisome.
Hey Brent,

I noticed that you have a picture of beer for your avatar. What is your favorite brand(s).

*Beer is so cool* :)

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