Bad songs which became HITS

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Re: Bad songs which became HITS

Post by sgs4u » Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:15 am

Quote:That is where we differ. I respect quality only. If success comes without quality in the music, there is no respect. A lot of bums make it in music. What am I suuposed to do, respect hacks and bums because they are good bullshitters or have pretty faces? HJ, how deep is your respect level for your own music? You're competing for forwards with the very people you may have little respect for. YOU are in the same fishbowl we all are in. Don't piss in your neighbour's pool. For some reason, you want to judge artists (who's music you don't like), as bums unworthy of your respect. Why does not liking someone else's music 'cause you to throw negativity around? You just sound angry, and most of all unapproachable. I wonder how important good bullshitting and pretty faces are really? Perhaps I should remove my avatar picture? Or am I ugly enough for your standards? I am complete agreement with Chits. I have great respect for anyone that gets stuff on the radio. In fact, I have respect for anyone who takes the time to post here, AND/OR create whatever kind of music they want to. Including your stuff HJ. steve

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Re: Bad songs which became HITS

Post by sgs4u » Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:21 pm

Quote:We don't agree. Please stop puling about my posts.Puling = whining, whimpering?I learned something new today. And it'll rhyme with so many words, too. steve

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Re: Bad songs which became HITS

Post by zircon » Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:37 pm

Yeah, I'm obviously in the minority opinion anyway

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Re: Bad songs which became HITS

Post by jchitty » Sat Mar 31, 2007 11:25 am

Quote:Quote:I certainly can't make any judgements because I don't have a song on the radio. Huh? Since when did this matter? Record executives all across the country have never had a song on the radio yet they judge songs all the time. Program directors sit in rooms listening to music making judgments on whether the songs are going to show up on their playlist without ever having a song on the radio. You need to come up with something better than that bruh. Quote:I like all types of country, commercial and alt-country. I love Trace Adkins, Carrie Underwood, and Brooks and Dunn, Alan Jackson, Vince Gill, but I also love Lucinda and The Old Crowe Medicine Show too. If it's got that 'twang', that is all it needs.I'm not a country fan by any sense of the word. But when you can get me to listen to a song by Tim McGraw (Live Like You Were Dying. Excellent song) and have me like it, THAT is a feat for the books folks. LOL, bruh? I guess you know I'm a 'gurl.' What I'm saying is that we can all be critical of people who have songs on the radio, believing they are trash, but it's takes A LOT of work and maybe even talent to have a hit song on the radio. I hear so many people say, "my songs are better than other people's songs, why aren't mine on the radio?" I'm learning not to be one of those folks, although occasionally, I imagine that I'm a female Dylan.

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Re: Bad songs which became HITS

Post by jchitty » Sat Mar 31, 2007 11:39 am

Quote:Quote:I'll say that I'm not a 'music snob.' I just don't like certain songs, but I respect anybody who can get a song on the radioThat is where we differ. I respect quality only. If success comes without quality in the music, there is no respect. A lot of bums make it in music. What am I suuposed to do, respect hacks and bums because they are good bullshitters or have pretty faces?Well, that depends, Horace. Like you, (and I believe we probably have the same taste in music) I like the good stuff. I love Lucinda Williams, Merle Haggard, Loretta Lynn, Conway, anything written by Jimmy Webb, Rosanne C., Waylon, Willie and the Boys....however, I have to accept the fact that everyone has different tastes. Some people love the current stuff on CMT, and I'll confess, that it is growing on me....Trace Adkins has some good songs out. Kenny Chesney who I use to blast, some of his stuff is growing on me too....Carrie Underwood, Little Big Town....it's a mixed bag, they have some good stuff and not so good stuff on the radio.My favorite country music is the Neo-Traditional stuff from the early nineties....Alan Jackson, Vince Gill, John Anderson, Sammy Kershaw, Randy Travis and George Strait (even though they started more in the middle 80's).....the generation before them looked down on some of their stuff, and now the early nineties generation looks down on the current Nashville crop as hollow sounding, bland sentimental crap. Maybe so, but one man's piece of bologna is another man's piece of steak....what is hack music anyway?I grow up with fantastic music, Led Zep, Bob Dylan, Pink Floyd, and I can remember my parents calling it 'hack music' hehe. They loved Benny Goodman and Glen Miller and thought what I listened to was crap. I will say that I miss that gritty soulful music that country used to be so famous for, all those drinking, cheating, fighting, struggling with heartache and prison songs...and I've written a lot of them...my guess is, it will be my lighter fare that gets a nibble in Nashville...that's what they want. Yeah, I'd sellout.

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Re: Bad songs which became HITS

Post by jchitty » Sat Mar 31, 2007 12:28 pm

One more thing...if you get your foot in the door with 'lighter fare' does that open up the door for you to get an artist to record some of your more substantial stuff? I've always heard that once you write certain types of songs in Nashville that you will always be writing that type of song, you will be 'typecast'....write lighter fare, and that's what expected of you....write gritter stuff and you might get lucky enough to get in heard in an alt-country market.I'd take either one.

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Re: Bad songs which became HITS

Post by jchitty » Sat Mar 31, 2007 12:50 pm

Quote:Oh well, I totally dig both songs. But what do I know? I'm glad I know what I like.steveSteve, I am now (as we speak now) four posts ahead of you....last one to "Ultimate Member" is a rotten egg....we got a ways to go , I know....Jeffe could end up beating us to it as well.

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