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Re: country music in need of a revival?

Post by 2lane » Sat Jun 07, 2014 11:16 am

funsongs wrote:btw: this very morning, the DJs and guests on KSON radio were having this very same discussion.
what a coinky-dink...
or, do they read Taxi forum?! :shock:
:lol: :lol:
Everybody has made valid points! Nothing wrong with being a purist, liking
a little innovation, or flat out rebel and wanting real change. We can go back and forth on the issue forever.
Obviously, they're doing something right... they're raking in the dough. After all, isn't that why we're all here, posting up our tunes, joining Taxi, going after every opportunity we can, to make whatever we can?
The botton line, all artistic integrities held dear aside, it comes down to dollars,
plain and simple!
Ehh, just what I think anyways.
Still a great thread :D
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Re: country music in need of a revival?

Post by funsongs » Sat Jun 07, 2014 11:26 am

rdance wrote:late to the conversation...i have enjoyed reading everyone's insights and pov's. my take is that the traditional country music funsongs is referring to, qualifies as an authentic american art form...that rare occasion when musical and lyrical elements come together from a few cultural sources, to create a sound/energy/communique that is unique and outstanding to such a degree that it affects large groups of people on an archetypal level (not just a popular level). my opinion on authentic american art forms and my guess on about when they coalesced:

folk mid 1800's
blues early 1900's
jazz mid-1920's
r&b late 1940's
country early 1950's
rock & roll late 1950's
funk late 1960's
rap late 1980's
missing one, Craw:
bluegrass late Monroe (aka The Monroe Doctrine) :lol:
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Re: country music in need of a revival?

Post by funsongs » Sat Jun 07, 2014 11:35 am

And: each of those go through, have gone through, a certain renaissance period; with twists and turns. Witness the return of folk-based music, where large audiences are engaged in singing along;
as though it were summer camp around the fire.
Check out video clips of the Pete Seeger, Kingston Trio, era... it's what "kids" (college) did for entertainment... instead of staring at a video screen until their retinas detached. :shock:
Maybe to many eyes it doesn't "look cool or groovy"... but it got people interacting, rather than being indifferent and comfortable in isolation. Neither of which, I humbly submit, is good for the human soul.

A Little Bit O'Soul... yeah... A Little Bit O'Soul. ;)
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Re: country music in need of a revival?

Post by funsongs » Sat Jun 07, 2014 11:49 am

jonnybutter wrote: And get off my lawn!
:lol: love it... would make for a great bumper-sticker:

"If it aint got a fiddle or steel guitar, it aint country.
If it aint country, get off my lawn."

Thanks, Butter-Man.
(what was that song? "Mister, You're A Butter Man Than I")...? :roll:
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Re: country music in need of a revival?

Post by 2lane » Sat Jun 07, 2014 12:21 pm

rdance wrote:late to the conversation...i have enjoyed reading everyone's insights and pov's. my take is that the traditional country music funsongs is referring to, qualifies as an authentic american art form...that rare occasion when musical and lyrical elements come together from a few cultural sources, to create a sound/energy/communique that is unique and outstanding to such a degree that it affects large groups of people on an archetypal level (not just a popular level). my opinion on authentic american art forms and my guess on about when they coalesced:

folk mid 1800's
blues early 1900's
jazz mid-1920's
r&b late 1940's
country early 1950's
rock & roll late 1950's
funk late 1960's
rap late 1980's

i think much of the discussion on this thread revolves around the complexities of how art forms evolve and change and cross-pollinate over time, creating derivatives. sometimes that's a good thing, sometimes not. but it seems they always will, and the good news is, this can sometimes generate a new art form. but since we live in such a hyper-connected world via technology, there is a lot of chaos and noise present at once, as musical genres bump into each other.

we all got to grow up when one or more of the above art forms were being created. some are better at using the art forms as a foundation to create new music. it all depends on what you listen to in developing your craft, how you play, how you hear the other players in a live situation, and so on.

my experience has been, if you lean first towards the original art forms and secondly towards commercial viability--something we all face every day as composers and players--the music will sound better, and i believe, will ultimately find a more longstanding 'home'...whether that is in a commercial, a show, a film, or a performing career.

got a little off track, thanks for the indulgence :mrgreen:
Yes Craw, great insight on it!

One thing no one has mentioned, and maybe it's a given, but the advance in recording technologies has brought about some of the change.
The rap part of country likely won't last...maybe it will, but I doubt it. They're just throwing stuff on the wall to see what sticks. A little while back (for a small example), it was Tim Mcgraw putting his vocal thru a filter like the pop and rock genres had been doing!
I heard it on a couple other songs ater that, and it died out, but pop and rock kept doing it. This rap will fade, and it'll be a new pile on the wall to see if it
stays....maybe EDM synths or something :lol:
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Re: country music in need of a revival?

Post by Kolstad » Sat Jun 07, 2014 12:47 pm

Yeah, putting it like that makes sense Richard. It all adds to the palette. Good old shit!

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Re: country music in need of a revival?

Post by funsongs » Sat Jun 07, 2014 1:00 pm

Dang!! that's a sexy photo of her...!!
Miranda aint lookin' too shabby, either :? !!

(raise your hand if you don't get the joke... :lol: )
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Re: country music in need of a revival?

Post by 2lane » Sat Jun 07, 2014 1:06 pm

I got a question. Would trucker country lyrics work today?
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Re: country music in need of a revival?

Post by Kolstad » Sat Jun 07, 2014 1:08 pm

2lane wrote:I got a question. Would trucker country lyrics work today?
What kind of question is that, haven't they already done one of those? :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnJEeHND_lQ

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Re: country music in need of a revival?

Post by funsongs » Sat Jun 07, 2014 1:18 pm

Lyrics... storytelling... seems what'd be appealing to long-haulers.
Bet most of them have some wild stories to tell of their own; mostly beginning sorta like:
"Y'aint gonna believe this, but.... there was this one time..."
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