Demo Question

[shavez]

Sorry if this is in the wrong category.Hi, I'm a singer. And I'm just wondering if I buy a non-exclusive beat to put on my demo and let's say a record company is interested, THEY'LL buy the exlclusive of the beat for my project?It this how some people do it? It wud be alot cheaper this way for the artist (me), than to just buy the exclusive now.

[stick]

It depends on what you're submitting to. A lot of the TAXI listings say No Uncleared Samples, because they don't want to deal with paying for a license. If you're submitting a song demo, with the intention that an artist will recut it, and likely not use your track anyway, you're probably fine. But, if what you're trying to sell is your production, then you should probably own it first to sell it.Why not just make your own beats?

[davewalton]

Quote:Sorry if this is in the wrong category.Hi, I'm a singer. And I'm just wondering if I buy a non-exclusive beat to put on my demo and let's say a record company is interested, THEY'LL buy the exlclusive of the beat for my project?It this how some people do it? It wud be alot cheaper this way for the artist (me), than to just buy the exclusive now.Not sure exactly what you mean by "buying a non-exclusive beat". If you mean buying a CD with various drum loops or a virtual instrument like Stylus RMX, then there's no problem as that's what those are designed for... to be used to create tracks of music. Their license sometimes has restrictions but it's usually what you'd expect, that you can't repackage their beats and sell them as your own beats.I hear a lot of music where I recognize a loop or some kind of sound from a virtual instrument that I (and many, many musicians) own.

[davewalton]

Quote:Why not just make your own beats?So easy, even a caveman can do it? Oh, you're going to incur the wrath of lots of drummers and percussionists... Speaking for myself, BOOM-BLOCK, BOOM-BLOCK is what I produce as compared to, say, a package of drum loops from Steve Gadd. How am I going to be more "in the pocket", experienced and creative than that guy? Here's his discography list just to illustrate Dave's drumming experience (none) versus Mr Gadds (eeeh gad!):2007 Various The Last Mimzy (Soundtrack) 2007 Art Garfunkel Some Enchanted Evening 2007 Michael Lee Hill Music From Here To Andromeda 2007 Joe Brucato Free 2007 Paul Simon The Essential Paul Simon (CD & DVD) 2007 Paul Simon Graceland (Special Edition: Bonus Tracks) 2007 Etta James Gold 2007 Art Garfunkle Some Enchanted Evening 2006 Garland Jeffreys I'm Alive 2006 Earl Klugh Music for Lovers 2006 O'Donel Levy Simba 2006 Marc Black Stroke Of Genius 2006 Janis Ian Revenge 2006 Joe Sample & Randy Crawford Feelin' Good 2006 Various Joy! Celebrate Upstate Holiday Vol.1 2006 Various (*DVD ) From the Big Apple to the Big Easy 2006 James Taylor A Christmas Album 2006 Al Di Meola Consequence of Chaos 2006 Toshiki Kadomatsu Prayer 2006 Various (*DVD ) A Musicares Person of the Year Tribute 2006 Gadd/Corea/McBride Super Trio 2006 Paul Simon Suprise 2006 Chick Corea The Ultimate Adventure 2006 Livingston Taylor There You Are Again 2005 Sunlight Square Sunlight Square 2005 Gordon Johnson Trios Version 3.0 2005 John Wackerman Drum Duets Vol. 1 2005 Eric Clapton Back Home 2005 Chick Corea Rendezvous in New York 2005 David Sanborn Best Of 2005 David Sanborn Closer 2005 Rickie Lee Jones Duchess of Coolsville/ Anthology 2005 Lee Ritenour Friendship/ Captains Journey 2005 Chiara Civello Last Quarter Moon 2005 Stuff Live in N.Y. / More Stuff 2005 Aztec Camera Love/ Stray 2005 Freetempo Time & Love: A Tribute to C.T.I 2005 John Tropea Standard Influence II-Rock Candy 2005 Michael McDonald Ultimate Collection 2005 Zucchero Zuccchero & Co. 2005 Russell Morris Z 2004 Gato Barberieri Millennium Collection 2004 Gap Mangione Family Holidays 2004 The Ebony’s Close to You 2004 Stephen Bishop Deuce of the Heart, His Best & More 2004 Wayne Shorter Footprints: Life & Music of Wayne Shorter 2004 Paul Simon Graceland Bonus Tracks 2004 Paul Simon Hearts & Bones Bonus Tracks 2004 Paul Simon One Trick Pony Bonus Tracks 2004 Paul Simon Rhythm of the Saints Bonus Tracks 2004 Paul Simon Still Crazy after All These Years 2004 Paul Simon Studio Recordings 1972 – 2000 2004 Paul Simon You’re the One Bonus Tracks 2004 Chick Corea Very Best Of 2004 George Benson Very Best Of 2004 Lalo Schifrin Towering Toccata 2004 The Bee Gees Too Much Heaven: Songs of the Brothers Gibb 2004 Soul Generation Stop, Look & Listen 2004 Little Jimmy Scott Someone to Watch Over Me: The Definitive 2004 Michel Petrucciani So What , The Best Of 2004 Eric Clapton Sessions for Robert Johnson 2004 Carly Simon Reflections: Greatest Hits 2004 Eric Gale Part of You ( 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[mazz]

You should see the list of albums where he actually used all four limbs! What a monster!Mazz

[stick]

Quote:Quote:Why not just make your own beats?So easy, even a caveman can do it? Oh, you're going to incur the wrath of lots of drummers and percussionists... Speaking for myself, BOOM-BLOCK, BOOM-BLOCK is what I produce as compared to, say, a package of drum loops from Steve Gadd. How am I going to be more "in the pocket", experienced and creative than that guy? I can't afford Steve for my demos. But, I can program drums that a lot of the music buying public (or clients for that matter) would dig. I love it when drummers will ask me "who played drums?" That said, if a free-use Gadd loop works in your joint, it's gonna groove hard. And BTW, BOOM-BLOCK can groove hard if the rest of your track is "right"!But, I think shavez's original question was more in the hip-hop/pop realm where a "beat" is more than just the acoustic drums. It can include scratching, bass, guitar riffs, orchestra hits, etc. How much are we talkin' to buy those loops? I'm curious. I mean, you know, if you're lookin' for some beats no one else has... I know this guy that can do that sorta thing...

[davewalton]

Quote:But, I think shavez's original question was more in the hip-hop/pop realm where a "beat" is more than just the acoustic drums. It can include scratching, bass, guitar riffs, orchestra hits, etc. Hopefully between your answer and my answer we answered the question. It's those "uncleared" samples that cause the problems. Quote:How much are we talkin' to buy those loops? I'm curious. I mean, you know, if you're lookin' for some beats no one else has... I know this guy that can do that sorta thing... Probably anywhere from $50 to $300-something for anywhere from hundreds to thousands of loops and variations. Stylus RMX (www.spectrasonics.net) is at the upper range in both cases, but it has so much depth and flexibility that it defies the general definition of a "loop" virtual instrument, going way beyond the norm. The customization of something like that in the hands of anyone who can and likes to develop their own beats would truly be an awesome thing. For me, it gives me so many choices, variations, and is such a huge time saver that it lets me concentrate of what I do best which is the music itself. Of course the loop packages like tablas, udus, and other ethnic percussion instruments are indespensible to me as well since I definitely don't have a handle on tabla playing or whatever. BOOM-BLOCK on the tablas definitely doesn't work.

[mazz]

I was going to ask shavez what he meant by beat because I had a feeling it was more than just a drum beat.There seems to be a whole bunch of Hip-Hop sample CDs and construction kits out there at all price ranges. The only issue I can see with these is more of an aesthetic one in that the styles may change so quickly as to make these collections obsolete fairly rapidly. I don't know because I don't keep up with Hip-Hop music.Business-wise, I wonder if a beat maker in Hip Hop is an arranger or could be considered a co-writer? If one didin't have much or any budget, it might be good to find a beat maker that is willing to collaborate for a percentage of any future potential profits as a co-writer.Regarding Stylus, remember that it can import REX files which opens up a whole world outside of the original library and expanders. I've used it with some very good REX collections recently, it just makes it easy to mess around with the grooves and the effects are very good. I don't do much drum programming anymore unless it's a basic electronica beat layered with Stylus, etc. on top or editing already played/programmed loops, MIDI or audio. Until I can afford real Steve (and the room to record him in), Steve in a box will have to do. Mazz

[shavez]

Hi, sorry for not responding sooner. Well I'm a rapper, and I'm trying to pitch myself to a major.I have no knowlegde of beat creation. I'm a lyricist first and foremost. I was looking into buying a beat so I can rap over. But didn't know the differnce exactly between exclusive and non-exclusive.I was told that non-exclusives are fine to put on my demo.What I was trying to say in my first post was - if a label picks me up, will they buy the exclusive off the producer, or produce a new instrumental entirely to my vocals? Is that how it usually works?EDIT: Mazz, I'm practically the sole writer and arranger for my tracks (for the moment at least).EDIT2: Also what I mean when I say beat, I just mean the instrumental track.

[davewalton]

Quote:I was going to ask shavez what he meant by beat because I had a feeling it was more than just a drum beat.There seems to be a whole bunch of Hip-Hop sample CDs and construction kits out there at all price ranges. The only issue I can see with these is more of an aesthetic one in that the styles may change so quickly as to make these collections obsolete fairly rapidly. I don't know because I don't keep up with Hip-Hop music.Yes, lots of Hip-Hop/Rap sample CD's available to create the underlying "beat" (drums, percussion, music, etc). Since these are used for what you're wanting to use them for and are sold in mass quantities, there never will be an "exclusive" purchase of these since they've already sold thousands of copies before any of us discover them and pick them up. Since they're designed to be used to create the underlying bed of music/rhythms, there aren't any "uncleared sample" issues and you're free to use them as you wish, only within the restrictions of the license for that particular package. Mostly those restrictions have to do with repackaging and reselling.Throw "hip hop sample cd" into a Google search and you'll get a ton of examples of what we're talking about. Seeing/hearing those might answer some questions that we haven't answered or clear up some answers that we've muddied up in some way.