Do I need a sub with this bass?

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Do I need a sub with this bass?

Post by TheElement » Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:21 pm

Hi again everyone,

I changed the bassline a bit and using real bass guitar now instead of a plugin. I know I still need to compress and process it more. I added a bit of low end using EQ.

How is the low end? Do you think I need to add a sub?

Many thanks for feedback its much appreciated!

https://soundcloud.com/elementproducer/new-bass-mix-2
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Re: Do I need a sub with this bass?

Post by lesmac » Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:07 pm

There is a fair bit of sub in the kick. You might run into phase trouble if you make both the kick and the bass big. Even if/when you use side chain you will need to be able to somehow monitor what's going on as bass frequencies are so powerful and long over time as well as distance. 50Hz sine wave is 6.8m long. I guess one must think about getting the two to groove.

Have you got some spectrum analyser plugins that you can audition/compare your track with reference tracks? That combined with headphones would be your best bet [me thinks] unless you can get to a medium sized PA.

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Re: Do I need a sub with this bass?

Post by TheElement » Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:31 pm

Thanks Lester. Good point! Great idea to use a ref track and spectrum analyzer.
Going to definitely give that a try.

Thanks! 8-)
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There is a fair bit of sub in the kick. You might run into phase trouble if you make both the kick and the bass big. Even if/when you use side chain you will need to be able to somehow monitor what's going on as bass frequencies are so powerful and long over time as well as distance. 50Hz sine wave is 6.8m long. I guess one must think about getting the two to groove.

Have you got some spectrum analyser plugins that you can audition/compare your track with reference tracks? That combined with headphones would be your best bet [me thinks] unless you can get to a medium sized PA.

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Re: Do I need a sub with this bass?

Post by TheElement » Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:29 am

Added some compression using the Supercharger GT. https://soundcloud.com/elementproducer/new-bass-mix-2

and couple extra elements..

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Re: Do I need a sub with this bass?

Post by TheElement » Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:44 pm

CTWF wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:37 pm
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Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:29 am
Added some compression using the Supercharger GT. https://soundcloud.com/elementproducer/new-bass-mix-2

and couple extra elements..
Sounds very balance on my AKG 812. Caveat: No subwoofer here. :)

Tom
Thanks Tom 8-)

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Re: Do I need a sub with this bass?

Post by lesmac » Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:20 pm

Do I need a sub with this bass?
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Post by TheElement » Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:21 am
Hi again everyone,

I changed the bassline a bit and using real bass guitar now instead of a plugin. I know I still need to compress and process it more. I added a bit of low end using EQ.

How is the low end? Do you think I need to add a sub?
Hey Gavin!

I just happened upon this video channel and it seems worth watching. I haven't watched the whole video yet but I'm 20 minutes in with a little fast forwarding and the guy is making sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-eneMG_DVE

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Re: Do I need a sub with this bass?

Post by TheElement » Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:16 am

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Post by TheElement » Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:21 am
Hi again everyone,

I changed the bassline a bit and using real bass guitar now instead of a plugin. I know I still need to compress and process it more. I added a bit of low end using EQ.

How is the low end? Do you think I need to add a sub?
Hey Gavin!

I just happened upon this video channel and it seems worth watching. I haven't watched the whole video yet but I'm 20 minutes in with a little fast forwarding and the guy is making sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-eneMG_DVE
Thanks! wow great find! I watched about 1hr. learnt a ton. will try watch the rest. 8-)

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Re: Do I need a sub with this bass?

Post by Krakoukask » Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:48 pm

lesmac wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:07 pm
Have you got some spectrum analyser plugins that you can audition/compare your track with reference tracks? That combined with headphones would be your best bet [me thinks] unless you can get to a medium sized PA.
I always thought that using a spectrum analyzer was "cheating" my ears lol. But it serves as a great training and startup point. :D

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