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Re: Feedback for ANTHEMIC MODERN ROCK INSTRUMENTALS

Post by AlanHall » Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:28 pm

Brad,
I think your cue has the swagger and bravado that the ref tracks have. Very nice!

I like the distorted bass, but... on the little bluetooth speaker I'm using right now (far from home) when it enters it sounds very 'woofy' and not tight at all. Maybe judicious adjustments to the EQ could help it play nice on speakers of all sizes? Also, since the bass has its own solo section, maybe delay the entrance til the 25 sec mark. That allows more options for minimizing repetition.

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Re: Feedback for ANTHEMIC MODERN ROCK INSTRUMENTALS

Post by BradGray » Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:24 pm

funsongs wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:59 pm
Without it being specified in the listing, around the 'standard' 2-minute length is probably a good, safe call.
It's rare that the full-length would get used anyway.

The track sounds a bit like what you might hear in James Bond/espionage scene as underscore - not too busy to interrupt dialog;
though it seems it might work best in a short, non-speaking bit.
I'd guess a screener might return it, if they think there's not enough subtle changes and sections.
Tough call - but a good track, to these old-guy ears.
Thanks Peter,

I think you're right with regards to the possibility of return, as it does get repetitive. I've already altered it, since listening over and over, and the great feedback everyone's posting. I've shortened the middle, and took out the extra repeating riffs. Also, I thought the intro was weak. I was trying around with some ideas, but so far the best was just removing it and starting with the main riff.

All in all, shortened the tune by around 20 seconds, and it moves better now. Less repetitive. I'm still tweaking a few extras for the ending, and a few more claps.

Thanks!
Brad

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Re: Feedback for ANTHEMIC MODERN ROCK INSTRUMENTALS

Post by BradGray » Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:35 pm

AlanHall wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:28 pm
Brad,
I think your cue has the swagger and bravado that the ref tracks have. Very nice!

I like the distorted bass, but... on the little bluetooth speaker I'm using right now (far from home) when it enters it sounds very 'woofy' and not tight at all. Maybe judicious adjustments to the EQ could help it play nice on speakers of all sizes? Also, since the bass has its own solo section, maybe delay the entrance til the 25 sec mark. That allows more options for minimizing repetition.
Thanks Alan,

I do like the ideas of delaying the bass, I've been playing with that option too. So far I have another version in the works, where I've edited out about 8-12 bars, or roughly about 20 seconds of it. Chopping the into, and in the middle guitar riff, keeps the track more interesting, and really removes much of the repetitive nature. =)

The fuzzy bass, does have a WOW quality to it, and I did check it out on my Bose, but did not notice what you're mentioning about the tightness. That said, I'll definitely double check. The bass is not playing the same riff, but perhaps too much of frequencies crossing over makes it muddy and loose sounding.

Thanks!
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Re: Feedback for ANTHEMIC MODERN ROCK INSTRUMENTALS

Post by AlanHall » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:00 am

BradGray wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:35 pm
AlanHall wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:28 pm
Brad,
I think your cue has the swagger and bravado that the ref tracks have. Very nice!

I like the distorted bass, but... on the little bluetooth speaker I'm using right now (far from home) when it enters it sounds very 'woofy' and not tight at all. Maybe judicious adjustments to the EQ could help it play nice on speakers of all sizes? Also, since the bass has its own solo section, maybe delay the entrance til the 25 sec mark. That allows more options for minimizing repetition.
Thanks Alan,

I do like the ideas of delaying the bass, I've been playing with that option too. So far I have another version in the works, where I've edited out about 8-12 bars, or roughly about 20 seconds of it. Chopping the into, and in the middle guitar riff, keeps the track more interesting, and really removes much of the repetitive nature. =)

The fuzzy bass, does have a WOW quality to it, and I did check it out on my Bose, but did not notice what you're mentioning about the tightness. That said, I'll definitely double check. The bass is not playing the same riff, but perhaps too much of frequencies crossing over makes it muddy and loose sounding.

Thanks!
Brad
Hope to hear your next version soon! I think my problem with the bass is that the only frequency content coming across 3" speakers are the fizzy/fuzzy harmonics. Not sure if there's a standard way to provide the 'essence' of a firm bass under those conditions, when the fundamental and lower-order harmonics are missing.

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Re: Feedback for ANTHEMIC MODERN ROCK INSTRUMENTALS

Post by BradGray » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:53 am

AlanHall wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:00 am
BradGray wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:35 pm
AlanHall wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:28 pm
Brad,
I think your cue has the swagger and bravado that the ref tracks have. Very nice!

I like the distorted bass, but... on the little bluetooth speaker I'm using right now (far from home) when it enters it sounds very 'woofy' and not tight at all. Maybe judicious adjustments to the EQ could help it play nice on speakers of all sizes? Also, since the bass has its own solo section, maybe delay the entrance til the 25 sec mark. That allows more options for minimizing repetition.
Thanks Alan,

I do like the ideas of delaying the bass, I've been playing with that option too. So far I have another version in the works, where I've edited out about 8-12 bars, or roughly about 20 seconds of it. Chopping the into, and in the middle guitar riff, keeps the track more interesting, and really removes much of the repetitive nature. =)

The fuzzy bass, does have a WOW quality to it, and I did check it out on my Bose, but did not notice what you're mentioning about the tightness. That said, I'll definitely double check. The bass is not playing the same riff, but perhaps too much of frequencies crossing over makes it muddy and loose sounding.

Thanks!
Brad
Hope to hear your next version soon! I think my problem with the bass is that the only frequency content coming across 3" speakers are the fizzy/fuzzy harmonics. Not sure if there's a standard way to provide the 'essence' of a firm bass under those conditions, when the fundamental and lower-order harmonics are missing.
Thanks Alan!

Already revised, done and submitted. Just click the same link, I've updated the song. =)

Appreciate the feedback from you, and everyone here! It's so very helpful!

Enjoy the weekend,
Brad

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Re: Feedback for ANTHEMIC MODERN ROCK INSTRUMENTALS

Post by cosmicdolphin » Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:02 pm

1) Is it too long?

No

2) Am I on point with the modern sound, and the references?

No

3) Too repetitive?

No

It's cool but it doesn't have the vibe or energy of the ref tracks, this is much more mellow

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Re: Feedback for ANTHEMIC MODERN ROCK INSTRUMENTALS

Post by BradGray » Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:21 pm

cosmicdolphin wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:02 pm
1) Is it too long?

No

2) Am I on point with the modern sound, and the references?

No

3) Too repetitive?

No

It's cool but it doesn't have the vibe or energy of the ref tracks, this is much more mellow
Thanks Mark. Well, 2/3 aint bad? ;-)

I submitted another one of my tracks as well, that was closer to the references as well; that has more energy. I still have some time, perhaps some more tweaking I can do to better hit the sound of the references.

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Re: Feedback for ANTHEMIC MODERN ROCK INSTRUMENTALS

Post by AlanHall » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:15 pm

At about 1:13 I think it develops the energy of a freight train and doesn't stop from there. So there is that...
But I agree with Mark, it seems a bit mellow - almost 'spacey' - before that. Still a great track, Brad!

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Re: Feedback for ANTHEMIC MODERN ROCK INSTRUMENTALS

Post by BradGray » Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:31 pm

Thanks Alan,

I agree with both of you, and appreciate the feedback. 2/3 references were written in a minor key, however, I think they both stayed away from the 3rd. I'm certain that I must hit it with the riff, and gives it a darker tone, but does pick up. I did try this morning to add some more distorted rhythm guitars, to beef it up, but it was killin' the vibe.

What can you do. I tend to wander, but submitted anyway. Just trying to keep to my own deadlines and really push myself to get more done. =)

That said, based on both of your feedback, and while it's all still fresh in my mind I've already started another submission for it; with more energy and closer to the references. I've built the framework today, but need to find the bridge; "where's that confounded bridge" =)

Thanks Gents!
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Re: Feedback for ANTHEMIC MODERN ROCK INSTRUMENTALS

Post by AlanHall » Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:27 pm

BradGray wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:31 pm
Thanks Alan,

I agree with both of you, and appreciate the feedback. 2/3 references were written in a minor key, however, I think they both stayed away from the 3rd. I'm certain that I must hit it with the riff, and gives it a darker tone, but does pick up. I did try this morning to add some more distorted rhythm guitars, to beef it up, but it was killin' the vibe.

What can you do. I tend to wander, but submitted anyway. Just trying to keep to my own deadlines and really push myself to get more done. =)

That said, based on both of your feedback, and while it's all still fresh in my mind I've already started another submission for it; with more energy and closer to the references. I've built the framework today, but need to find the bridge; "where's that confounded bridge" =)

Thanks Gents!
Brad
I tend to wander - musically speaking - too; regarding my latest submission Mark (aka Cosmic Dolphin) told me the listing was asking for pizza, I gave them fish tacos. Yeah :roll:
The good news is that for $5 I can improve the track and send it in when the listing does ask for fish tacos (whatever that means!).

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