Help on song writing ^^

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Re: Help on song writing ^^

Post by andreh » Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:25 pm

Quote:Hey Hooks.I am one of the few Professional Musicians haunting this board which is exactly why I am the way I am.Don''t tell me how hard it is man to make a few scheckles from this business.The majority of you don't have a clue.You've got your safe day jobs that bring in the money and think all you have to do is write a few words and you have a hit song.jJust for balance, I'll throw in that my sole income is generated via music...and though it may be a struggle at times, I still love this industry and believe confidently that my success will continue to grow.I know many other people who have found success and happiness making music for a living, so it IS possible, despite your experiences Johnny! Andre
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Re: Help on song writing ^^

Post by Casey H » Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:03 am

Quote: I am one of the few Professional Musicians haunting this board which is exactly why I am the way I am.Don''t tell me how hard it is man to make a few scheckles from this business.The majority of you don't have a clue.You've got your safe day jobs that bring in the money and think all you have to do is write a few words and you have a hit song.jC'mon Johnny... Now you are a professional musician?? I thought you were just a consumer of music?? Which is it?? You have no credibility saying you are a professional musician without letting us hear something and read more about you.Casey

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Re: Help on song writing ^^

Post by davewalton » Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:49 am

Quote:Hey Hooks.I am one of the few Professional Musicians haunting this board which is exactly why I am the way I am. Don''t tell me how hard it is man to make a few scheckles from this business. The majority of you don't have a clue. You've got your safe day jobs that bring in the money and think all you have to do is write a few words and you have a hit song.Boring... zzzzI quote again from you...Quote:The vast majority of people here are musicians who judge with their ears. You are still trying to convince us with visual evidence. It just doesn't work.And you're SO right.

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Re: Help on song writing ^^

Post by edteja » Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:00 am

Johnny, Bear in mind that a number of us (I deliberately use the inclusive promoun cause I be one) used to be full time musicians. I quit full time performing to focus on writing music and that meant getting a day job. Given that Ives (no, not Burl), to name just one, sold insurance to earn his bread so he could write the music he loved, I don't feel bad about that at all. He was not commercial at all---I didn't realize that this was the only valid point to writing music. I thought it was because it was an arduous yet joyous thing, as Hook pointed out. And I still perform professionally, just not full time. Does that make me less credible? Somehow I doubt it.
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Re: Help on song writing ^^

Post by hookstownbrown » Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:20 pm

Read this guy's last ten posts. Youi'll see that he is purely a skank.JD1, you are truly rude, crude and unappreciated.Care to meet me for lunch in Nashville? I'll buy... Buddy...I've got some salt for your salad...Best wishes, you rudimentary terd...

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Re: Help on song writing ^^

Post by drew » Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:47 am

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Re: Help on song writing ^^

Post by spariam » Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:15 am

Quote:Quote:I highly recommend Jason Blume's '6 Steps to Songwriting Success'. If you read it and do the exercises you'll have several songs written by the time you complete the book, and you'll have a good understanding of songwriting (which is re-writing, and crafting).cheersHummin'birdThe only people who make money from songwriting books are those that write them!jI have two checks sitting on my shelf waiting to be deposited...you be the judge.One for $650 that I got directly from a lead in a book called "Cash Tracks" by Jeffrey P. Fisher. Another, a $1.43 royalty check for my stint as a co-author of a computer book done for McGraw-Hill. Not a songwriting book, but as a book author none the less. (OK, maybe it wasn't the best book in the world, but it gave me my first experience of working under high pressure deadlines... )

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Re: Help on song writing ^^

Post by johnnydean1 » Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:14 am

Quote:Read this guy's last ten posts. Youi'll see that he is purely a skank.JD1, you are truly rude, crude and unappreciated.Care to meet me for lunch in Nashville? I'll buy... Buddy...I've got some salt for your salad...Best wishes, you rudimentary terd... hey Hooks,as you have been the most complimentary and I only have time to answer one post.Am I supposed to be impressed with the Nashville address?For starters I wouldn't be seen anywhere with somebody who looks like you.You could probably get a job in the movies as an extra.I suggest horror pics.You wouldn't need any make up. I think you call yourself a Pro Writer but don't you get a pension from the navy.Pro to me means you get your money from your musical skills,not some government handout.I bet you make your living shoveling turds,actual or musical.

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Re: Help on song writing ^^

Post by hummingbird » Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:18 am

You know what? I've had enough of this. If you aren't prepared to be a positive and supportive member of this community, then go away. We're not interested. I highly advise every member of this forum to ignore any posts from this person and let's get back to the reason that are we are here - to create and maintain a community of like-minded musicans and writers who share knowledge and support each other in their creative aspirations.Don't fall for the bait that gets you involved in these sorts of energy-wasting and creativity-draining exchanges. It's just spam.Hummin'bird
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Re: Help on song writing ^^

Post by aubreyz » Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:41 am

Quote:You know what? I've had enough of this. If you aren't prepared to be a positive and supportive member of this community, then go away. We're not interested. I highly advise every member of this forum to ignore any posts from this person and let's get back to the reason that are we are here - to create and maintain a community of like-minded musicans and writers who share knowledge and support each other in their creative aspirations.Don't fall for the bait that gets you involved in these sorts of energy-wasting and creativity-draining exchanges. It's just spam.Hummin'birdWise post Hummin'bird.Trying to have a constructive conversation with slam-posters like this are about as profitable as discussing quantum physics with a toddler.I will continue ignoring. There's a proverb I refer to a lot. No matter your faith, the wisdom rings clear: Quote:Where no wood is, there the fire goeth out: so where there is no talebearer, the strife ceaseth.

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