Holy Crap!!!

[andreh]

Quote:<snip>A guy like Andreh would put this puppy through its paces and make wonderful recordings.<snip>Thanks, I would sure try. Of course, I have a lot to make up for WRT my musical chops (I spend too much time behind a computer screen and not enough behind an instrument), so I'm glad these tools exist!André

[prez]

This is a great tool. Actually, this is lunatic. That being said, I'm still a staunch believer where playing and singing it right is still what we strive for. I don't think that is going the way of the dinosaur. But I think that it is being put backburner. But we don't have anything to fear from new technology. I mean, we have it coming out all the time and people making, for lack of a better term, janky music. Like Marty said, knowing what to do with what you got is much more important than having the latest and greatest. I know cats who can put out some mad good stuff on FLStudio that make others who use Pro Tools look like ammys (amateurs). Shoot, for the longest time, Timbaland used an Ensoniq ASR-10 along with Kanye West and the Neptunes, to name a few and that thing came out in the early 90s. But it sure don't matter when they make songs. So technology is all well and good. Makes our jobs easier (and that's a subject for debate in itself. ) But being blessed with experience, talent, know how....that's just priceless (this is not a Visa commercial, thank you very much ).Blessings.

[ggalen]

Mazz said: Quote: Great live music will probably never die and may make a resurgence when audiences get so overwhelmed with the amount of nearly free crappy recorded music available to them there'll be a backlash and they'll actually seek out great live playing. I wish I had said that in my post...wait a minute! I DID!!Great minds think alike. As I said, I do think live music will be where the money is once recorded music is basically free, and it is headed that way fast.Even royalties on broadcast may change once the Internet becomes the new "broadcast" medium.

[aimusic]

[prez]

Quote:I'm mainly talking about live performances....everyone knows that a CD will be a decent sounding product... I'm just worried about the live performance side of things....You really shouldn't be. You'll always need someone to play what you make. Even folks like Rihanna, Justin Timberlake, and the like, who are straight programmed in the studio, have bands to play live. It'll always be needed. BORING to look at someone on stage with just a computer. Most folks don't want that. That's why Prince still sells out his concerts. People like that live performance vibe. As an artist, I must confess...that's the way you'll be making your money and pretty much has been. But more so with the advent of the internet. The fear is unfounded. Change tends to do that though.

[mazz]

Quote:Quote:A possible negative: substandard "artists" that nevertheless look great will get an even more over-inflated false sense of self-confidence because they will be made to sound great in the studio. The proof will be when they attempt to go live. Unless, of course, the record label hires an MD that plays the right vocal tracks from his/her laptop at the right time.MazzTwo reasons I don't think this will have much of an impact in the way you describe: 1- The only thing new here is the ability to fix polyphonic tracks, so it only affects guitarists and keyboard players (and it remains to be seen how well this tool works on complex synth sounds or heavily distorted powerchords). Fixing bad singing, drumming and bass playing has been possible for years with Melodyne, Autotune and other software. 2- It's been common practice for years now to replace a band's good looking but terrible guitar player's or hot but sucky drummer's tracks with session musicians for the record.While this software would theoretically make it possible to "fix" the sucky guitar player's or keyboardist's tracks , it will still be a lot faster and easier to do it the old fashioned way...by hiring a ringer.mattoYou mean the Archies didn't really play and sing? You just burst my bubble, man This software is cool but has little attraction for me at this point due to the heavily MIDI nature of what I do. If I did more audio than I do, I would be on it in a heartbeat. And yes, if I need that live sax or horn or even guitar player, I'm gonna bring in a ringer anyway!Holy Crap! still applies, though! Mazz

[andreh]

Quote:And yes, if I need that live sax or horn or even guitar player, I'm gonna bring in a ringer anyway!Even if you've brought in a great player, there are times when this tool could be helpful. Especially in the ad world, tight deadlines and ambiguous [or at least difficult for some producers to put into words] creative goals often mean last-minute musical changes.I can also see this being of benefit to songwriters who've made some changes to a song after paying for a demo, but don't have the funds (or would rather put them elsewhere) to re-track certain parts.This technology will negatively affect the number of gigs available to studio players (just as Autotune/Beat Detective/Sound Replacer/etc. have), but I doubt if many serious players will lower their "bar" and decide they don't need to practice as much anymore.Personally, I'm totally stoked...and I'm pretty sure most of my clients (especially the ones who pay me by the hour) will be too! André

[geo]

Man.... I wish I had this when I was trying to write a song using MODES!!!!!Interesting debate going on the subject of how this effects music... my $0.02...Somebody's gotta turn the dials, decide on the melody etc... the human are still in the mix .... I'm sure the composers are chomping at the bit ... not for me though... Geo