Holy Crap!!!

[rld]

I was shocked to learn I've been pronouncing MIDI incorrectly all these years.Say it with me ....ME DEE.

[ragani]

Yeah, pure insanity! Beautiful, lovely, delicious insanity... This is seriously going to change the world of music. No more late-night retakes for that missed chord! We had to know someone would come up with this sooner or later, eh? Forget sliced bread, direct note access RULES. This baby is going to the top of my Christmas list...

[johnnydean1]

Much ado about nothing to quote SG's dad. If the best. this piece of software can do is move few notes of a chord around I don't think the real musicians on here (Steve in particular) have anything to worry about.The only crap was the sound of the acoustic guitar in the sample.

[johnnydean1]

Quote:I don't fear that... if someone's material is more suitable for a listing than mine is - they deserve it... I'm not talking about listings, I'm talking about going to gigs... sometimes people like to discover new bands on myspace etc... and you might think this band kicks ass, then you go to one of their gigs and they suck... That's what I'm talking about...This kind of software is amazing for studio work and to fine tune songs (that have a lot of hard work go into them).I mean Auto-Tune started people hearing singers that sounded great on cd but weren't that great live ala Gwen Stefani, now with this it just means that musicians can accept their bad performances because they can tweak absolutely everything in the studio.Sounds to me you have been to more gigs than you have played so you don't really know what you are talking about.

[hummingbird]

Where's the koolaid? I'm one of those people who thinks the goal should be to practice like mad and sing/play it right, and only use the tools occasionally to tweak a couple of spots in an otherwise stellar track. I once recorded a vocal in an LA studio for a friend... I was extremely surprised when the producer expressed his surprise that I actually sang the whole song on key. He said sometimes he has to go through a whole track and the singer will be miles away from the notes. I was shocked that those singers would consider themselves professional and be pitching themselves as artists. That's not to say that all singers are like that, I'm just pointing out that there are merits to both points of view... a tool is a tool... but a tool can also mean someone who isn't doing their job meets a higher standard. I believe at some point the blinders would come off (usually in live performance) and the 'non-professional' would be revealed. I hope that that is true.

[aimusic]

Hummingbird, you are an excellent diplomat!! I agree, that's why I say the tool is brilliant on a professional level. And that's a brilliant example of what I mean by musicians not trying hard enough (meaning they can sing off in the studio and get away with it)Hummingbird I take my hat off to you for being a hard working musician... that shows professionalism!P.s. everyone, Hummingbird is the kind of professional musician I'm trying to talk about - meaning she gets the job done without much help.

[Casey H]

Wow, I'm surprised that this thread became so contravesial... In all areas of the things we do (not just music), there is always the fear that new technology will destroy everything good. The reality is, as our toolsets get better, we have more time to focus on other things because the mundane is left behind.I've been a software engineer for a very long time. I remember when people though going from assembly language to a high level language (such as C, Pascal, etc.) would be the death of good software because it took all that low level control out of the programmer's hands. Now, a compiler, was making these decisions! But, the step-up in toolset, meant better software, developed faster. And we wouldn't be sitting here on our PC's if everyone still wrote software in assembly language.And, back to music, any tool can be used to make amateurs or less talented folks sound better. But, as been said, in the hands of the right people, it will free up time to do even more creative things. Even today, you can make garbage with the state of the art tools you have or a masterpiece with a 4-track cassette recorder. Casey

[hummingbird]

Quote: Even today, you can make garbage with the state of the art tools you haveyou been listening to the stuff on my hard drive there, bud?

[andreh]

Quote:<snip>A guy like Andreh would put this puppy through its paces and make wonderful recordings.<snip>Thanks, I would sure try. Of course, I have a lot to make up for WRT my musical chops (I spend too much time behind a computer screen and not enough behind an instrument), so I'm glad these tools exist!André

[prez]

This is a great tool. Actually, this is lunatic. That being said, I'm still a staunch believer where playing and singing it right is still what we strive for. I don't think that is going the way of the dinosaur. But I think that it is being put backburner. But we don't have anything to fear from new technology. I mean, we have it coming out all the time and people making, for lack of a better term, janky music. Like Marty said, knowing what to do with what you got is much more important than having the latest and greatest. I know cats who can put out some mad good stuff on FLStudio that make others who use Pro Tools look like ammys (amateurs). Shoot, for the longest time, Timbaland used an Ensoniq ASR-10 along with Kanye West and the Neptunes, to name a few and that thing came out in the early 90s. But it sure don't matter when they make songs. So technology is all well and good. Makes our jobs easier (and that's a subject for debate in itself. ) But being blessed with experience, talent, know how....that's just priceless (this is not a Visa commercial, thank you very much ).Blessings.